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  • While Audacity is the app that I always have on every platform, UI is not so good. That shouldn't be hard to remake in raylib.
  • Audacity 4 is getting a completely new UI.
  • Does anyone see multitrack recording happening well in-browser?

    Has anyone tried BandLab? Aside from the social slop and recent aggressive advertising, their recording app is super impressive, glitch free, low latency, easy to use and sounds great.

    Or will this always be the domain of installable software?

  • I've never recorded with BandLab, but used it a lot for playback, and for a beginner, it's really good and very easy to use.

    With regards to recording - I'm curious how this would work on a scale like 16 ins at a time. Dumping bits from the interface to disk as uncompressed .wav is trivial, on the browser I'm not sure how storage works. Would it have to upload to the cloud immediately?

  • Someone ported Audacity to the web. https://wavacity.com/
  • Serious question: Why would it be preferable to have something like this in the browser? The thought of having to keep track of a browser tab that you might accidentally close and lose all your work doesn't sound great.
  • This is interesting because it's based on audacity, but Audacity is also going through a more thorough rewrite.
  • Will have to try this out. I have yet to find a reason to not just continue to use the old version 2.x audacity from the pre-telemetry days. I just need simple post-production tools after rendering out of my DAW and the old audacity does the trick.
  • For something more simplistic, there is also kwave: https://apps.kde.org/kwave/
  • It seems like Tenacity is getting more attention in recent days. Why that is, I'm not sure, but it's great to see it getting more traction! (I say this as a current maintainer! :D)

    In recent times, Tenacity 1.4 alpha 1 was released! This is the culmination of a months-long rebase effort off Audacity 3.7.5, bringing features like realtime effects, non-destructive pitch shifting and stretching, beats and bars support, and plenty of others. Of course, there's no telemetry either, including cloud integration too.

    Keep in mind that this is an alpha release, so we're still working on the final 1.4 release and are still a good deal away from it. For example, one of the most notable things missing at the moment are our themes, but those will return in 1.4 alpha 2 as I'm working on a brand new theme system to address the limitations of the current theme system. I intentionally did not reimplement our themes again because I was tired of dealing with the theme system we inherited, and this has been in the work for several years now. We should be close to fruition, but I'm performing some refactoring first before I continue on :)

    Meanwhile, we're also working on an unplanned 1.3.5 release. It was originally intended to be a rebuild of 1.3.4 (which I'll explain when 1.3.5 is released), but it's going to include a fix for a spectrogram crash, Windows dark mode support, fixes for recent compilers, and a new Windows on ARM build! I also plan to get macOS builds back again, but I don't have a Mac to test things on. I know macOS builds are currently packaged incorrectly, and I'm currently trying to figure that out. If anyone wants to test out the latest 1.3.5 builds, you can here: https://nightly.link/tenacityteam/tenacity/workflows/cmake_b.... All in all, you can think of 1.3.5 as, at this point, having a few 1.4 alpha 1 backports, kind of like how 1.3.4 had a few pre-rebase 1.4 backports.

    Anyways, I'm glad to see some interest in Tenacity. If anyone wants to contribute, feel free to come over to https://codeberg.org/tenacityteam/tenacity and contribute in anyway you can! We also have a manual that needs to be (re)written (for 1.4) here: https://codeberg.org/tenacityteam/tenacity-manual. Finally, you can also contribute to our Weblate here: https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/tenacity. However you contribute, we will wholeheartedly accept it! Thanks in advance too! :D

  • I'm having difficulty building it on Artix (an arch derivative).

        [ 63%] Linking CXX executable ../RelWithDebInfo/tenacity
        /usr/bin/ld: /tmp/lto-llvm-3894d5.o:   (.data.rel.ro._ZTI21ListNavigationEnabledI8wxWindowE[_ZTI21ListNavigationEnabledI8wxWindowE]+0x10): undefined reference   to `typeinfo for wxNavigationEnabled<wxWindow>'
    
    This is probably some sort of issue with the way part of wxwindows was built on my distribution. I'd love it, of course, if anyone has had the same problem and a solution or any ideas about what to do. I will see if it's possible to rebuild some more recent wxwindows or to change its build options to include type info.
  • I have nothing to tenacity or artix, but my top search result gave me this link:

    https://github.com/audacity/audacity/issues/4614#issuecommen...

    Looks similar and kind of makes sense with tenacity using the audacity 3 UI ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • I dropped audacity because of the audacious cloud crap in an application I view as Notepad for wav files

    Tenacity has been pretty nice

  • Not open source, as far as I can see.
  • I love OcenAudio, it's SoundForge for the new millennium =)

    It is, however, not the same type of app. OcenAudio is a wave editor, so only one file at a time. Audacity is multitrack, and has a project structure much like a DAW without the MIDI stuff.

  • If you're curious about the legacy link being a 404, the correct link seems to be that: https://tenacityaudio.org/legacy/legacy.html

    (found sniffing around https://codeberg.org/tenacityteam/tenacityaudio.org , this 404 was reported on IRC)

  • Audacity had a 5 year plan on removing technical debt and overhauling the UI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYM3TWf_G38 (1 hour long video)

    Will this be merged into Tenacity or are they going further apart?

  • Listenable at 2x, so only a 26 minute video! (I highly recommend trying more than 2x for premium users, and letting your brain get used to it before poopooing it.)
  • that's a beautiful and very educational video. Basically how to listen user and how to implement feedback around user feedback.

    I mean tantacrul's videos are generally super educational to begin with but I really liked this one tbh. Wish he could do this full time and had more frequent videos.

    the only thing that I didn't liked the logo. I mean bleh. i hope they'll do something more nice to look at. that's my only complaint lol.

  • An audacity fork. Reason for forking described at https://tenacityaudio.org/docs/_content/Introduction_and_Mot... . Their own summary:

    > at the primary reasons were attempts at adding telemetry and a new desktop privacy policy [by the new audacity maintainers]

    Previously discussed at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34835200

  • Well, technically the reason for the fork was the implanted backdoor that was executing a binary coming from Muse groups server, hidden as telemetry and an update check. It's not a well built backdoor and the code is easy to spot, as there's not a lot of other http related code in audacity itself.

    edit: Check the au3/src/update/UpdateManager.cpp, they're still not hiding this better after all that happened, lol.

    [1] https://github.com/audacity/audacity/blob/8d6e45a9756e700b7f...

  • So, 4 years since the initial forks and 2 years since the Audacium merge, how Tenacity (basically Tenacity&Saucedacity&Audacium) compares to Audacity?