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  • > arrested in Italy and is now in custody in the United States

    unpopular opinion, but what is the point of having borders, countries and legal systems if they are all connected into one global unit giving merely an illusion of separation to groups of people?

    by gethly
  • > unpopular opinion, but what is the point of having borders, countries and legal systems if they are all connected into one global unit giving merely an illusion of separation to groups of people?

    You didn't state an opinion (unpopular or otherwise), you asked a question.

    But the question is very much like asking why have defined property rights, property lines, fences, etc., when people still engage in voluntary trade and other interactions.

    by dragonwriter
  • They aren't that connected. It's a loose affiliation.

    Even then, it's only when they agree. If the Italians liked him he would likely have been protected.

    by jfengel
  • They aren't. The US is just in a unique position where its projected force in most of the world is sufficient to make other governments mostly do what they want without them having to even say it.

    Of course the US is also apparently trying to change that at the moment by speedrunning an era of self-humiliation and wiping out its economic influence and "soft power" over the mistaken belief that you can strong-arm international negotiations with military power alone in the Atomic Age.

    by hnbad
  • Why keep in custody instead of sending to front lines to fight for freedom?
    by sharts
  • The US is uncharacteristically free of front lines at the moment. At least, external ones.
    by jfengel
  • The included photos are glorious
    by morkalork
  • This is how I want to picture Russian hackers and they didn’t disappoint.
    by WD-42
  • Straight out of the 2001 film Swordfish
    by k33n
  • It's shocking how much pictures influence judgment: Without reading much, at first, I thought: Poor guy, maybe he got pulled into something, ...

    Then I saw the pictures of him in a leopard fur pajama and indoor sunglasses, and with his (an assumption on my side) trophy wife, and thought: "Naah, he probably deserves it"

    by Plankaluel
  • Those 2 pictures were of a different hacker, not of MrICQ.
    by Thorrez
  • There is a bbc podcast[0] about evilcorp

    [0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct89y8

    by scoopr
  • The podcast includes the author of that blog post and is also linked in the article.

    > Both Baldwin and I were interviewed at length for a new weekly six-part podcast by the BBC that delves deep into the history of Evil Corp.

    by dewey
  • «The Jabber Zeus name is derived from the malware they used — a custom version of the ZeuS banking trojan — that stole banking login credentials and would send the group a Jabber instant message each time a new victim entered a one-time passcode at a financial institution website. The gang targeted mostly small to mid-sized businesses, and they were an early pioneer of so-called “man-in-the-browser” attacks, malware that can silently intercept any data that victims submit in a web-based form.»
    by nine_k
  • Imagine having these sort of warrants hanging over your head and just casually deciding to do a little international traveling. Guys like this are constantly getting nabbed this way. I wonder if being a wanted man for so long has some sort of psychological effect that makes people take more risks to get it over with.
    by mikkupikku
  • The human brain is just really bad at evaluating risk, especially over long periods of time. A lot of people are wanted overseas for years or even decades without anything happening, which makes it hard to maintain the mindset of being at risk without falling back to "eh, I've been fine this long"; a lot of them do foreign travel anyway and get away with it, which makes it hard to not fall into "what's one more vacation to a extradition-friendly country".
    by chc4
  • Just look at the profile pics of these people and you'll get the answer. They like to show bling, have a perceived invulnerability shield around them, and like to spend the ill gotten gains.
    by lofaszvanitt
  • Italian and Greek airports: the bane of otherwise untouchable slavic cybercriminals since 1994
    by anonym29
  • Hypothetically, how would someone know there was a warrant out for their arrest in another country? That doesn’t seem like public information.

    I figure most cyber criminals assume they are untraceable until they get arrested.

    by tobyjsullivan
  • From the other point of view, the abundance of stories when the high-profile criminal was catched doing something stupid, and the relative absence of ones when the criminal was catched in some clever way may mean the law enforcement is doing their job poorly.
    by reisse
  • There could be errors happening outside their control. Planes are sometimes rerouted to different countries for different reasons, but mainly weather-related. I've heard stories of travel agencies f**ing up travel planes because of wrong data, and people suing them because of unexcepted stops. Or the good old "they planned for Australia, but ended in Austria"-story. Happens far too often.. There are many targets where people confuse a city or country with a different target.
    by slightwinder
  • I would imagine that is lot more likely that is just only the official story rather than what actually happens behind the scenes in these situations.

    In the background there could be deals with the countries protecting them or with the target directly or a existing deal they had is off now. It may even be unrelated, wasn't worth expending the diplomatic capital before, but they are a connection to someone else more important and so on.

    It could also be the targets were captured in a illegal way, no country wants to be diplomatically humiliated and the prosecuting one wouldn't want to disclose their covert ops capabilities.

    Announced News is more often only a Press Release, we shouldn't be taking them literally.

    by manquer
  • I imagine the general assumption is that you don't realize that you've been ID'ed. That they traveled before and nothing happened so traveling again isn't a big deal because all the "tricks" they used to cover their tracks worked.
    by irjustin