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- Very interesting, especially if it found a way to bypass the explicit disabling of automatic downloads…
Now imagine you’re roaming during a 10-day vacation…and you think you’re in control :) …
by doncho - Is your phone connected to some work mobile device management? I could imagine someone has a jinxed Jamf or intune rule that is pushing things out.by janstice
- No, this is my personal device. It has never been connected to any MDM.by _-x-_
- Do you have any MDM profiles installed? Go to Settings → General → VPN And Device Management. If you use your phone for work your employer may have asked you to install one, but check anyway. MDM profiles can specify apps to be installed automatically.
Also, is developer mode enabled?
by gcr - Side point, re this:
> Automatic downloads are turned off
Isn't it funny that we're so used to the misuse of language (ie lies) that this isn't even a point? I'm talking about software flags to represent your choices, that are merely an 'aspirational intention' and don't actually correlate with reality.
In my world, it shouldn't be possible to override 'turned off automatic downloads'. 'Off' shouldn't be a pacifier for the user, while Apple, Google or whoever can continue installing whatever they like. This isn't what words mean. There isn't actually a choice, but it misleads you into thinking there is. I'm sure there are legal words around this in the "ownership" contract, but "off" can't really mean "on".
by verisimi - This was happening for me also. 3-4 days in a row it would reinstall in the evening. I’m on a new iPhone that never had the app installed. Automatic downloads wasn’t on, etc. finally noticed that signing out of “Media & Purchases” and then signing in again would make it install almost immediately. Could reliably repeat this any time of day. At one point I preempted the install by long pressing on the Headspace icon and selecting “Cancel Download”. It disappeared and hasn’t been back since.by nostromar
- Meanwhile, I can't install an iOS game i bought in 2021 (Azure Saga if it matters) because it's delisted from the app store.
Damned if you pay them, damned if you don't.
by nottorp - Took me a minute but I found it https://archive.org/download/iklassika_archive/AzureSagaPath...
- Do you have Settings > Apps > App Store > (Automatic Downloads) App Downloads turned on?
I noticed apps appearing on my Home Screen I’d never heard of before. Turns out with that setting and Family Purchase sharing turned on, every time my wife installed a new app, it installed on my phone too.
That may not be your exact scenario, but I wonder if turning off that Automatic App Downloads setting (if enabled) changes anything. Could give you a clue, if so.
by yokuze - Speaking of which. Under Cellular Data There is a setting right below Automatic Downloads call "App Downloads". I wonder if that works independently of whether or not Automatic Downloads is off. The only options are: Always allow, ask if over 200mb and always ask.by trinsic2
- App Downloads and App Updates are both turned off. I don't have anyone else's devices on my account, just me. Thank you for the suggestions though!by _-x-_
- I have the same exact thing happening. I deleted the app a few days ago when was surprised to see it in my app list.
I had previously downloaded the app but and removed it because I never used it. A few days ago I noticed the app when browsing through my app list and thought maybe I didnt delete it properly, so I made sure to delete it. Then this morning my iPhone updated software versions and I found he Headpsace app again on my home, except this time it was grayed out and waiting for me to go on wifi to download.
I just deleted it again but am equally dumbfounded
by COFyumo - That's interesting that it still showed up on your homescreen despite not being able to downloadby _-x-_
- I wonder if U2, or Bono, has taken a significant stake in Headspace recently (kidding).
- Deep cut
- It was so fucking funny. I wonder what the engineer thought, who had to issue the SQL query which added Bono to literally everyone's collection. Like, I'm not surprised that management was so out of touch, but I'd expect the engineers to have a bit of common sense...by meindnoch
- A 50th anniversary gift you mean?by steve1977
- I feel like I’m the only one who listened to that album when it appeared and thought it was pretty goodby ex-aws-dude
- It's not good four my blood pressure to be reminded of that sanctimonious tax-dodging hypocrite.by fmajid
- My hypothesis is that headspace registered many user notifications and since user notifications trigger an app launch and perhaps you have optimize storage by offloading apps enabled? ios has a quirky app state where some local data exists but the app itself (ipa package) is offloadedby visiondude
- In which case, perhaps the app doesn't correctly remove notifications on delete which would mean Headspace could be to blame?by lwhi
- Agreed, this is an interesting idea. I just checked and offloading unused apps is disabled on my phoneby _-x-_
- This is the most interesting idea imo; do you think it’s testable? For example: allow the installed app to persist, turn on notifications, do some stuff to let a queue drain. Then remove.by threecheese
- I might be way off base here, but recently ios added "Settings -> Privacy and Security -> Security Improvements -> Automatically Install"
Might be just OS security updates, but I wonder if it works for apps too?
by m463 - Here's a Reddit thread of other people experiencing the same issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1su82sc/headspace_app_...by _-x-_
- looks like, no where its safea anymoreby bharat1010
- There's an Apple discussions thread now, too: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256288392
Has 4 'me too'. Do go click that 'me too' button to report the issue if you're seeing it!
by altairprime - Based on that I'd guess either a meditation app company has figured out how to circumvent a lot of controls put in place by Apple, or it's a bug on Apple's sideby Bjartr
- This is fascinating. I am very curious to find out what the actual cause of this turns out to be.by cortesoft
- This isn't the first system bug that primarily was visible due to headspace: https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/02/ios-11-1-2-date-bug-cra...
In 2017 it was an endless crash loop caused by any app with local time-based notifications.... Which for almost everyone at the Apple store I visited was meditation apps with daily meditation reminders (in Australia we were among the first to wake up on that affected date. The fix went out before most of the remaining world woke up)
I wonder if the daily reminder is triggering a reinstall? Perhaps try disabling the reminders before uninstalling.
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