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  • i also made something like this. it cover 17M entities across tracks albums artists and labels. posted on show hn a few times but it went unnoticed (hate u (joking))

    https://toposonico.com/#lon=14.4313&lat=-1.0200&z=9.10&entit...

  • that's pretty cool, thanks!
  • This website has instantly more relevance than 50% of the online news outlets out there.
  • Given this is Hacker News, this easily could have been some re-vamped "table" of metal elements or what the linked site ultimately is ... LOL. Personally, I am more happy with the actual site than metallurgy.
  • I was hoping it was a metallurgical table myself but was pleasantly surprised with a map of my favorite music genre. Win either way.
  • Has anyone made something like this for jazz, classical, or hip-hop? The closest I know of are:

    - https://www.music-map.com/ - https://everynoise.com/ - https://chartmetric.com/ - https://musicroamer.com/ - http://davidmckinney.com/app

    But they're all kind of generic, I would love to see something more genre-specific with additional historic context and personality.

  • One of the "I'm trying to find it" ... Fantasy metal. I was wondering where I'd find Blind Guardian ( https://youtu.be/n63UbX5kzAc https://youtu.be/uOMfsywQgY0?si=7N9hcXJcqbZtJ1jC&t=953 ) or the newly emerging dwarfish metal genre with Windrose (best known for their rendition of Diggy Diggy Hole https://youtu.be/34CZjsEI1yU but they've got other music that celebrates fantasy dwarf culture - https://lnk.to/WindRose-Trollslayer )
  • I get the thematic connection but I feel like Blind Guardian is an institution whereas the Diggy Diggy Hole band is perhaps in a different league with a more selective core fan base and a song that has novelty appeal.

    No offense to dwarf metal fans intended.

  • Blind Guardian is under "Melodic Power Metal", which is exactly where I'd expect to find it, alongside Helloween, Rhapsody, Dragonforce and Angra.
  • Ya'll should checkout https://everynoise.com/. Similar in spirit.

    Just read the update:

    > 2024-01-05 status update: With my 2023-12-04 layoff from Spotify I lost the internal data-access required for ongoing updates to many parts of this site. Most of this, as a result, is now a static snapshot of what, for now, will be the final state from the site's 10-year history and evolution..

    what a shame. I didn't realize the author worked for Spotify. Guess it makes sense. Spotify should've acquired it from the author or made a deal with him to keep it live since all the links lead to Spotify anyway.

    by tra3
  • Great map. There might be some categories missing, couldn't find any Katatonia, Agalloch, Alcest nor Tiamat. Alcest and some Deftones are considered blackgaze and Agalloch, Wolves in the Throne Room fall more into grey metal.
  • I see Tiamat at Goth Metal.
  • Wolves in the Throne Room are RABM not grey. Their are clearly political and clearly anti NSBM and anarchists. And very clear that the musical genre is black metal.
  • I can't thank you enough for mentioning Agalloch! I used to listen to them so much in university but somehow completely forgot about them until I read this comment!

    I'm going to lose myself to "The Mantle" this weekend (best part is that I can now learn to play these songs on guitar). Thank you so much again - you made my day!

  • It's interesting because some of these bands are older than these terms. Alcest wasn't considered blackgaze until albums inspired by their own sound became popular, for example.

    Metal also has history where a genre is aesthetically defined as well as sonically, which complicates things.

  • I've got a particular itch that's difficult to scratch, and I'm not seeing anything on this site that reflects the genre.

    I've heard it as 'metalstep' but I'm sure there are other names for it. Very aggressive cross between metal and EDM. More of a metal sensibility than hardcore EDM; more of an EDM / trance sensibility than, say, Fear Factory. The drum tracks have more of a death metal vibe to them. It's probably easy to blend into other genres.

    I'm thinking stuff like Invocation Array, Rave The Requivm, Follow the Cipher, even stuff like The Algorithm and Neurotech. I suppose Fear Factory would count here as well.

  • electro-industrial?
  • Thanks for posting this comment. I have the very same itch and now a bunch of music to check out!
  • You might like Sullivan King. Matches the description of "aggressive cross between metal and EDM" imo.
  • Try out MASTER BOOT RECORD and Amaranthe.
  • I kind of always considered that Industrial Metal, but looking at the examples on the site, they don't really match with what's in my head.

    For concrete examples of what I'm thinking, something like Crossbreed[1], or more recently Electric Callboy[2]

    [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS2zMciGHBE [2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NdGBldg3w

  • Check out the band smash stereo, and check out the doom (2016) and doom the dark ages sound tracks.
  • Oh, that kind of metal and EDM.

    I clicked into this thread expecting hobbyist/hacker machining with steel and brass and aluminum, and was surprised to see someone getting into electrical discharge machining. Those hair-fine wires, milled graphite electrodes, and ultrapure water baths can achieve incredible precision but are challenging even in an industrial context, though I know a few have made it work in their garage.

    But you meant electronic dance music.

  • Just in case you're still following this thread: I just came across "Rabbit Junk" and they're exactly what I was looking for
  • I'd love of this showed me the spiritual successors of a band / sub-genre even if they're not mainstream or well known. For example, I really love Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and a number of other "classic" Heavy Metal bands with a slow, hard but not sludgy brooding sound and amazing vocals. But it's hard finding modern acts with a similar sound. What tends to happen when I search for modern metal is I end up finding stuff that is more a descendant of speed metal, or thrash, or black metal... and none of that really strikes the right chord for me.

    There used to be a thing like 20-ish years ago called Musicovery that could sort of do this if you clicked around.

  • Very curious the conspicuously absent genre in your list, especially given how much of modern doom is death metal. I can't help much with traditional doom however as I don't listen to it much, I just found it a bit funny you never encountered modern death metal during your searches for slow metal.
  • You ever heard of Every Noise at Once? You can search for an artist, see the genres they belong to, and then look for artists nearby in 2D musical space (oversimplified a bit to be fair) within that genre. I've found it's generally pretty accurate, and I've found plenty of new artists this way.

    Unfortunately no longer being updated, but still has a fantastic backlog of new-ish artists.

  • Doom, stoner doom, stoner sludge.

    Bands like Sleep, OM, Electric Wizard, Weedeater, Dopesmoker, Satans Satyrs, Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats, Salems Pot, Acid Witch… there’s so so many.

    Also heavier bands that are more stoner/psych than metal like All Them Witches, Mars Red Sky, Dead Meadow, Aunt Cynthia’s Cabin, all rip too.

  • You can maybe checkout https://hate5six.com/sage this lets you pick what you like and also what you don't like and tries to categories by percentage.

    Bands that you are saying. Maybe Hangman's Chair, Pallbearer, Faetooth, Rezn, Conan, and Monolord.

  • The Sword might be what you're looking for - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL7ndxWgW5A