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- It's surprising how this administration consistently keeps rolling 1s on a D20.by N_Lens
- The lack of consequence and massive personal gains suggest the White House are hitting nat 20s.
The taxpayer and future generations are footing the bill. Trump and friends are rich forever.
by oliwarner - Do they? Then where are the consequences?
- what's surprising is that people think 1) they give a shit, and 2) that they're not 100% manipulated by foreign influence.
Israel and Russia completely own MAGA. Every decision they make re: foreign policy looks like it is straight out of Foundations of Geopolitics or Netanyahu's fever dreams.
- There is no "$300 billion fund" or "peace treaty" - these are all "carrots" being dangled to entice Iran. What we know for sure:
1. An MoU has been signed by both sides extending the ceasefire for another 60 days.
2. US Naval blockade will be lifted. The US expects the Strait to be toll-free, while Iranians claim it will not charge anything only during the 60 days ceasefire period. Iran claims it does plan to introduce some "maritime service fees", along with Oman, for the usage of the Strait, in the future.
3. Trump claims Iran will have no weapon grade nuclear material and will hand over all its enriched nuclear material. Iran claims it has only agreed to dilute the existing stockpile of 60% enriched uranium to "civilian grade" levels. It will not hand it over to anyone. And while it will also retain its existing enrichment facilities there will no "0% enrichment" policy as the US administration demands. Iran however will restrict itself from enriching uranium for military use as per the NPT.
4. The agreement also demands that Israel will have to end all military operations in Lebanon too, and withdraw from all the Lebanese territories occupied by it so far. Israel has however said it will not withdraw from the territories it has captured. Iran says it is up to Trump and the US to bring Israel to heel and enforce the agreement.
5. "Denuclearisation" and complete cessation of hostilities in Lebanon is supposed to be further negotiated within this 60 days period. During this process, US has offered to lift some sanctions if progress is made on the nuclear "deal".
- MoU reached. Peace? Not sure. - https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/527364/MoU-reached-Peace-No...
- Iran and US agree peace deal roadmap: What is and isn’t known - https://www.rt.com/news/641641-iran-us-peace-deal/
- Scoop: CIA director doubts Iran's intentions on deal, sources say - https://www.axios.com/2026/06/15/us-iran-deal-cia-director-r...
Personally, I wouldn't hold my breath for this ceasefire to last beyond 60 days. Netanyahu needs some war, some where to continue till elections in Israel are over. Peace in the Lebanon front upsets that. The US has made clear it wants the enriched nuclear pile removed. So Iran will have to deliberate on how much of all this nuclear negotiations can be trusted to not be an "intelligence gathering" exercise (to figure out where the stockpile is currently - dilution of the enriched pile will need on the ground inspection).
by thisislife2 - For the 3567th time, I'll believe it when I see the fuel prices drop. Anything else is just the Yellow Dog and Jeffrey Dahmer Vance market manipulation talks.by trolleski
- Destroy and rebuild, that's the whole point of war.by lobito25
- > “Well, our expectation is that the strait is gonna be opened in a toll-free way for the long term, and that’s the sort of thing that we’re gonna figure out in these technical negotiations... You know that there are a lot of very important details to figure out, that we’re actually gonna sit at the table and discuss together and figure out a path forward on these details.”
This is the kind of thing you say when the deal is ready to be signed Friday.
by cosmicgadget - Surely such a deal would have to be approved by Congress, right? Would they really have the votes?by 3eb7988a1663
- What is congress going to do? Say “never negotiate with the US”?
It’s not like congress can very feasibly reject this deal in the end, Iran would just extort the gulf countries and it’d be even harder to sell an intervention.
by joxdosba - > Surely such a deal would have to be approved by Congress, right?
That's the law. But Congress is abdicating much of it's power. The SCotUS defers to the WhiteHouse (ex:sides with the admin 90% of the time). The mechanisms that foster ethics in the 3 branches are being intentionally sabotaged by the majority in power.
by WarOnPrivacy - what, so you go and bomb them then now u pay them hahahaby jiwidi
- Loser has to pay reparations.by LtWorf
- If you like those kind of "jokes", also note that
-- it does not seem that those who had to bear the collateral damages of the whole action (e.g. economic loss, diplomatic loss) will be paid;
-- there have been hints that some not involved in the action (hit by the retaliation) also paid (to appease the retaliator).
by mdp2021 - This would be an incredible $1,800 from each taxpayer sent overseas to the Iranian regime. On top of what’s already been spent and the inflation caused. In any other time in history just this alone (ignoring all the other scandals) would lead to something like a landslide 100 seat swing in the house. The fact polls show we’ll be lucky to see 10 seats switch shows how incredibly broken our information environment has become.by erentz
- rubes gonna rube
- Sustained flooding the zone and abject denial over multiple years really is an unmatched cognitive warfare strategy isn't it. It's incredible how so many of us are tricked by something so primitive.by OhioMan2943
- I would campaign that the deal be fulfilled with private money instead of public funds.
(Or, act to show - roots and consequences - that this should be the proper procedure.)
by mdp2021 - I got news for you: that private money - a big chunk of it comes from public funds.by ciconia
- Don't worry, nothing this administration says to Iran means anything.by vintermann
- Why was it bad for Obama to release much less than this to assure the earlier joint agreement? We heard a lot about how bad that was. Pallets of cash they said, real bad.by bediger4000
- because Israel, the Saudis, and a few US billionaires didn't like it.
and now they do
- Because that was done by Obama.by pjc50
- Trump has never felt any shame for hypocrisy. Or any shame at all actually.by seanmcdirmid
- Because Democrats are held to different standards. I mean just look at the last year.
- > reconstruction fund
Literal reparations:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_reparations
> War reparations are compensation payments made after a war by one side to the other. They are intended to cover damage or injury inflicted during a war.
Another war lost by the USA, despite its infinite military supremacy. Weird.
One observation that comes to mind is that a lot of people in the world realize that the interests of the US and of Israel are not aligned, but American policy makers keep pretending they're one and the same. This was completely self-inflicted and it's not the first time. (The Iraq war cost what, trillions?) It's quite incredible.
by ekjhgkejhgk - Please appreciate the peace and say thanks.by jimmydoe
- As an American, this whole thing has been so disappointing. I donate to candidates who both oppose this stuff and win, so I think I'm doing my part well, and I think in two years we'll improve things. But in the meantime I'm sorry!by Schiendelman
- USA has a weird concept about the future as it were something already known, so they may declare now what will happen, even if the actual future depends on other agents.
From TFA:
> U.S. officials have said Iran agreed to reopen the Strait of Hormuz permanently without tolls, while Tehran said the agreement is to allow free passage for the next 60 days during another period of negotiations led by Vance.
> When asked about the confusion during a Monday appearance on CNBC, Vance said “Well, our expectation is that the strait is gonna be opened in a toll-free way for the long term, and that’s the sort of thing that we’re gonna figure out in these technical negotiations.”
by adrian_b - That's not the US, that's just how you communicate when you're projecting your political goals.by Schiendelman