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- Claude trying to make friends in a battle royale is funny.
But if the robot is anywhere near my house, I think I want the one that hesitates.
by aykutseker - If the robot appears to be bringing me a taco, it would probably penetrate all of my defenses. Grok is currently more likely than Claude to arrive with the taco without being stopped by an export control directive.by delichon
If grok-4.1-fast was the top-winning model, and Claude 4.6 Sonnet the second, how did Gpt-5.4 come in second on the leaderboard? Which one is second, Claude 4.6 Sonnet or Gpt-5.4?L icon Grok 4.1 Fast won 13 of 30 games at $0.97 per win The next-best winner was A icon Claude Sonnet 4.6 with 5 wins, at $26.78 per win. That’s a 27x difference. The model that isn’t on most top-model lists beat the model that is, on the thing a routing customer actually cares about. The model with the most kills did not win H icon GPT 5.4 killed 38 agents across 30 games. More than anyone else. It came in second on the leaderboard with 2 wins.
What does that mean? How are there 11 games between "best a killing" and "best at winning"?There were 11 games between “best at killing” and “best at winning”.by trb- Ya know, maybe we could just not have robots that sprint. Seems people would be more willing to accept living amongst robots that are slow and that humans could easily over power.by pianopatrick
- Cost per kill ("CPK" in industry lingo) is a dark phrase that feels disturbingly within reach of some of these companies.by lanewinfield
- DeepSeek V4 Flash being the winner in cost efficiency causes me exactly zero surprise.
It's a monster at coding. And a fast monster at that.
I use it daily and have been testing if MiMo 2.5 (non pro) is comparable. The nice thing about MiMo is that it has vision capability.
by bel8 - I was loving grok-4.1-fast, very good and cost effective.
But it's not actually 4.1 anymore they silently rerouted it to 4.3 and just started charging more - https://www.reddit.com/r/grok/comments/1ta8yrn/grok_41_fast_...
Quite a bad practise.
- > I didn’t add any frontier-tier models like Opus 4.7, GPT-5.5, or Gemini Ultra. At their prices, 30 games would have cost around $3,000 instead of $482.
I have a lot of thoughts unrelated to the game experiment but more about how these opus/ultra size models can possibly be a financially viable product at scale when it costs $3000 to play 30 simple games. It just seems much much higher than what it would cost to get a human to play 30 rounds
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