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  • Two big names left GDM recently. Could be a coincidence, but where's the fun in that? :p
  • you mean shazeer?
  • That's meaningless without knowing many big names remain, and how much "big names" influence future outcomes. Google seems to have a knack for making names big
  • Super Mario leaves Nintendo to focus on plumbing.
  • Name checks out.
  • So Mr. Jumper. You are committed? We need people longer term here. Your boss Mr. Settles is really excited about you joining.
  • Missed opportunity for headline: John jumper jumps to anthropic
  • I am guessing this is related to Anthropic’s recent acquisition of Coefficient Bio, and their interest on essentially using AGI to discover novel drugs
  • John Jumper Jumps to Anthropic, was right there.
  • Drop the "John" :)
  • He will be back at Google after the Anthropic IPO.

    Seems like everyone here is easily fooled by the Anthropic hype. After the IPO, Anthropic won't be like the daycare it is today.

    Their main competitors are the chinese labs which are racing all their prices down close to $0.

    by rvz
  • With Anthropic going public, I wonder how long until enshittification sets in for LLMs. I guess as soon as they have figured out a way to lock-in users and growth slows down.
  • Can you go into a bit more detail about what exactly it is that you are predicting? This is interesting, and definitely cuts against the grain that the rest of these comments are going with.
  • Something seems afoot at Google. The real tell will be if Demis makes a move. Jeff Dean seems more like a lifer to me.
  • Demis is practically a co-CEO at this point. If he leaves, that'd be a huge of trust in Google.
  • I just think that people are running to pre IPO Anthropic to make bank.

    It also feels like Anthropic is the new Google though. They actually try to not be evil, and are actually at the frontier of new tech.

  • Maybe this a a naive take but I see Demis as future Google CEO candidate. If AI is really the future, he is much better suited to lead the company.
  • Gemini fumbled not on the models but on the basics.

    Gemini 3.1 flash was actually an amazing model to code with and their 20 dollar AI plans had solid value, but they locked it all behind 429s, needless gatekeeping of clients and poor product differentiation even among internal offerings. Users moved on. To claude for the best product, to OpenAI for the non gatekept API access. It’s hard to bring them back.

  • Organizational issues probably. As a user of Gemini for half a year I was stunned at the amount of bugs and lag for one of their flagship products.

    Their devs are not incompetent so there must be some extreme dysfunction for that to be possible at the org level, where the IC is either not allowed to fix the bugs or doesn't want to fix them.

    Either way that dysfunction is probably not limited to just the Gemini UI team.

  • Between this and Shazeer you guys are idolizing individuals in an unhealthy way IMO.

    Why are we keeping tabs on researchers moving around?

    You're talking about them like people talk about the NFL trading players or (football) soccer teams making recordbreaking player transfers.

    someone further down wrote

    > Anthropic legit builds one the strongest if not the strongest IC team in the history of computational technology.

    What a weird thing to say. It's not a team sport where you support 'sides'.

  • why is it unhealthy?
  • It’s annoying that the headline gives no context of who Jumper is, as if everyone is expected to know.
  • KRAZAM made a skit about this. You would like it.
  • It is like NFL trading players, what's wrong with that? Not that either should be idolized, but they're paid a lot for a reason.
  • Why not, really? People have different (though likely conflicting) views on the company and it’s an interesting (and potentially profitable) space to follow.

    I‘d argue it’s more meaningful than sports, which makes it more interesting to follow.

    Of course the sports aspects are silly, but maybe they‘re just a fun way to keep track. Happens to other popular companies in the tech sector as well.

  • The team with the most star power and hype tends to attract the best young talent.

    If the next big breakthrough in AI comes from Anthropic, good chance it comes from some genius you’ve never heard of who decided to work there because of [famous researcher].

  • this is a natural human trait. soap operas, sports, businesses, music.

    there are also real implications. assuming money is not the only factor in moving to anthropic, it does help guide insight into where innovation might be and where to put your AI spend. a decision which could result in real returns for individuals and companies.

  • >What a weird thing to say. It's not a team sport where you support 'sides'.

    It is if you have equity!

  • Something spicy must have happened internally at Google. This rapid fire high level attrition isn't just down to the bureaucratic quagmire.