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  • > NSA lost access to Mythos

    That's is funniest thing I read since long time :)) I mean: it's so absurd, almost like things we had in real socialism in 80s :> But, yeah, freedom have consequences.

    by Woodi
  • If Mythos is still running internally, the NSA still have some access to it. It's just crazy to believe there aren't CIA and/or NSA plants (tacitly acknowledged or otherwise) inside Anthropic and OpenAI.

    But Mythos is still only an advanced LLM so I am not sure what all this breathy fuss is about; it sounds like the PR war more than anything.

    If the NSA aren't themselves training technologies that are at least as powerful, that would modestly surprise me.

    Not that you need an LLM to monitor the risks to the USA. You just need Tulsi Gabbard's emails.

    by dofm
  • AI marketing bullshit stunts are unlike anything I've seen in 30 years. It started with MS Copilot so called capabilities for work, which were completely made up use cases that didn't work at all (3 years later still). We've had OpenAI "AGI is coming" and "AI will take your job", now we have Mythos being so "dangerous" for cybersecurity, which of course makes the average Joe interpret it as Anthropic being "the better overall company, the NSA uses it!!". I mean gov foes with Anthropic are probably true, but the marketing is to blame not Mythos capabilities. This is all so fucking pathetic
    by medlazik
  • > That contract has not been finalized, and some Pentagon officials want the N.S.A. to find a way to work with other models.

    Good, fsck NSA, that's the last organization I'd ever want to have access to Mythos. I hope this administration's incompetence will prevent them from regaining access for as long as possible

    by zb3
  • Is there a historical precedent as to what happened when the upstart denied capability to the empire?

    The closest I can think of is the bronze age collapse.

    by gaiagraphia
  • 'Mythos “broke into almost all of our classified systems, not in weeks, but in hours.”'

    Is Mythos a significant danger?

    The curl experience does not suggest that hysteria is warranted, but this gives me pause.

    by chasil
  • mythos allowed mediocre people to get results by holding their hand through the process, or just ignoring their irrelevant input and knowing what to do.

    if you throw millions of tokens at IDA Pro MCP with the right prompt lets just say security by obscurity fails miserably because there is no obscurity when the LLM chews through the decompilation.

    by teravor
  • > The White House and intelligence officials had pushed forward a classified contract between Anthropic and the N.S.A., which would allow the spy agency to use the company’s technology for a variety of purposes, including intelligence analysis and detecting new computer vulnerabilities.

    Ironic that both sides are playing a horse shoe game:

    Gov: The model is both a supply chain risk and also we'll DPA you if you don't give it to us.

    Anthropic: The model is both like a nuclear weapon in terms of national security implications and safe for general release.

    by jawiggins

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