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- When is the tipping point?by NuclearPM
- She claims that the post with his name is the one that triggered the visit.by paleotrope
- More broadly, across various instances, the administration and feds have been coming out strongly against basic freedom of speech which is a core constitutional pillar that defines America. It is highly unAmerican.
Meanwhile, the crook in charge keeps doing everything he can to keep his cronies rich, at the expense of the planet's climate. Those who voted for him continue to remain utterly uninformed of the tornadoes and floods they sow.
by OutOfHere - What happened to freedom of speech? Before you know it we won't have any freedom at all. They had no right to track her down. We can't let this continue, something has to be done.
- How is this anything other than a flagrant violation of her constitutional right to free speech? This is the government suppressing her speaking the name of the executioner, which was already publicly published.
If I was her, I would be launching a multi-million dollar lawsuit against the government for a violation of constitutional rights.
by rekabis - Was it against the law for them to ASK that she remove her post? In essence, it was a request, coupled with an unrelated statement about the illegality of interfering with federal officers. Yes, it was an attempt to intimidate her, but she recognized it for what it was and did not cave in.
Doxxing has many forms, and I agree that she did nothing wrong by citing the news source with the officers name, and offering her opinion. They did not detain or arrest her, and she agreed, and even invited them to speak with her.
This whole thing is a non-story.
by anonymousiam - I remember the good ole days when the White House would coordinate with former employees that got jobs with SV companies in their "online safety" orgs and would just ban or shadowban people. Less legally suspect because it was action by private companies.by paleotrope
- The US regime's effort to avoid any culpability for killing American citizens is very concerning.
- I wonder how far we are away from people being arrested for holding up blank pieces of paper.by fanatic2pope
- Or praying silently to yourself in a No Praying Zone!by trelane
- I mean, if we are going to go after people for their tweets and posts, there’s a social network that needs crawling…by reactordev
- Happened in 2023 in the UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blank_paper_protestby dgellow
- I know in CA it is a violation of election law for an armed law enforcement officer to enter a vote center unless they are responding to an incident or there to vote.by lokar
- And what are the consequences if they do it anyway?by mingus88
- This kind of intimidation sucks and I'd like to see individual officers who indulge in it lose their qualified immunity and be prosecuted for it.
But I'm at least grateful to live under a regime that needs to break its own laws to do this, and so such charges can be dismissed by courts that follow the law, even if they don't apply consequences to the offending officials. Compare that to the UK where more than 12k people were arrested for social media posts in 2023 alone and where it is fully permitted under the law with great discretion and supported by the courts.
It's a bit like "my husband is better than yours because he doesn't beat me as hard", but it's something.
by delichon - Which of the 12K arrests do you not agree with? Or are you saying people should be free to write whatever they want on social media with no repercussions?by Steve16384
- in what world do you think they would actually be prosecuted?by rambojohnson
- > But I'm at least grateful to live under a regime that needs to break its own laws to do this
Actions speak louder than words.
He's a (translated) quote from a constitution; the country it is from has no qualms about breaking it. I am confident you, as a lover of freedom, would not wish to live there:
- https://archive.org/details/constitution_202002/page/n21/mod...Article 67. Citizens are guaranteed freedom of speech, the press, assembly, demonstration and association. The State shall guarantee the conditions for the free activities of democratic political parties and social organizations.by ben_w - Given the costs of defending a federal case start at the five figs and the typical naughty tweets style offense nets community service at worst, I’m not so sure.by lux-lux-lux
- The 12k number is an estimate, and only 1k were convicted. And the law they're being charged with breaking covers things like threats to assault someone, false bomb threats, harassment of ex-partners, threats sent to MPs, serious domestic abuse-related crimes, etc. There's no breakdown of what each charge was for.
If you make a bomb threat or threaten to kill someone else over social media, you really should get arrested and prosecuted because that isn't an exercise of "first amendment rights".
by dualvariable - The content of the post deemed by ICE to warrant ~~federal prosecution~~ crime-boss-style intimidation:
> BREAKING: The ICE agent who shot and killed Renee Good in broad daylight has been identified as Jonathan Ross by the Minnesota Star Tribune. I think today is a great day for Johnathan to be indicted!
If anyone is wondering, it would still be a good day : )
by conartist6 - _in a polling place_ no lessby mattnewton
- I don’t read the Minnesota Star and hadn’t seen any of this, so, if anything the Feds doxxed their own by bringing it to my attention.by laweijfmvo