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  • Aren't LLMs notoriously bad at math? Although I guess they may just spin up Python to do math these days.
  • > Aren't LLMs notoriously bad at math?

    Compared to computer algebra systems, sure.

    Compared to the overwhelming majority of humans, absolutely not.

  • They used to be - nowadays to do calculations they typically call tools.
  • GOTCHA would have been a funny name too ;)
  • When are we getting GOTCHA (whatever it does)?
  • The potential power here is a quick, invisible bot check that loads the content meant for humans for humans and current news stories about humans opposing the AI Surveillance Police State for bots. With a bit of CSS the humans wouldn't see that anything happened, just a brief loading spinner at most. If anybody prototypes something like this please post about it.
  • I’m surprised Claude worked on this… in the not too distant past my attempts to build human-CAPTCHAs triggered safety refusals. What model did you use?
  • Repo should have an example section… I don’t get where this would be useful
  • "humans need not apply" is a nice touch
  • For others curious, it is a really famous CGPGrey video[0] whose current title now is "What Happened to Horses Is Happening to Us" but whose previous title was "humans need not apply"

    it is such a popular video that it has its own wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humans_Need_Not_Apply

    [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

  • Cool concept, but lots of processing to get to that point still.

    Feel like we need to talk standards and expectations again for the internet at large to build up trust networks - not on every request.

    Efficiency seems so far away from engineering standards now. Odd how we got here.

    GATCHA would be a better name but I digress

  • This is like Proof-of-Work, but for an extremely small amount of work, that would already overwhelm human effort, like computing a single SHA256.
  • This still makes no sense to me, for practical applications.

    Let’s say the goal is a bot-only social network.

    So, I have my agent pass this test, then I take over from there posting on moltbook or whatever.

  • Let’s say the goal is a human-only social network.

    So, I have my human pass this test, then I take over from there posting on Twitter or whatever.

  • Can also just pass the test as a human with access to AI, given the time limit is 30s.
  • You're absolutely right!
  • Yeah, this seems to be more like a concept piece. Just something to talk about, not really useful
  • A robot wouldn’t be annoyed passing the test every single time it wants to do something . A human would. That’s how you filter.
  • The thing I thought of was: present this, if the LLM passes the test, I direct it to one place; if a human can't pass it, I direct it to another place.

    Like, maybe this could be a way to mitigate bot traffic.

  •   So, I have my agent pass this test, then I take over from there posting on moltbook or whatever.
    
    Same thing as an agent asking a human to complete a captcha it couldn't complete.

    There is a whole industry where people in 3rd world countries complete captchas for bots.

  • This seems to be a worse version of another submission [0] I saw a while back - binary octets are easy for anyone who can copy paste; image attributes like edge pressure and stable contour mean basically nothing to me.

    [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48357169

    by m_w_
  • This is funny. “Agents don’t hesitate” meanwhile it takes five rounds of thinking to get Claude in Chrome to select the box
  • Yes... I wonder if this is also prone to hallucination? A while (more than a year) ago I told Copilot to sort a list of integers. First, it gave me the code to sort it. I told it "no, sort the list yourself and give me the result". Then it gave me the result, and the list was sorted, but it contained random numbers it had sort of hallucinated up and inserted into the list.
Captcha proves you're human. HATCHA proves you're not · Birbla