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  • I wonder if humanity will ever go back to Nokia times small phones. If this phone was 50% smaller, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I don't want to carry these huge bricks anymore.
    by system2
  • Most people like big phones and they sell the best. With more people who only have phones as their devices, they want to have as much screen as possible.

    The solution that I would implement ifI wanted a small phone would be a Motorola flip.

    by Cider9986
  • Since NASA demonstrates it is possible to keep servicing software on a 50 years old hardware, traveling into space far far away, I want someone to buy software and original tooling rights for the Nokia 1100. Then prepare a firmware upgrade for the variant with WAP capabilities to replace them with a more modern, very optimized, stack and have it installed on the (millions of) remaining devices. Then deal with carriers convincing them to provide ad-hoc 2G CSD service. Finally setting up internet services for the puny device. One can always dream.
    by wuming2
  • Have they unlocked the bootloader? Can I install a different OS on it?
    by cassianoleal
  • I bought and used sailfish on a Sony phone (also had a second one), with my work issued SIM card for mainly calling as a test, it also had a few popular messaging apps like WhatsApp and whatnot, maybe for 5 years, but got tired of the interface and apps mediocrity. On a personal phone after several years and several mediocre android phones that had to be switched way too often for my tastes I switched to an iPhone. And as I expected cause had a Mac 20 years ago, despite using Linux for all these years, God what a pleasure to use an iPhone. But anyway got tired of that sailfish phone and replaced it with an older pixel + graphene, not as huge as iPhone but still much better than the sailfish os, in both app support and interface. If you ask me this are the only tho decent phones now an iPhone or graphene. That Sony is running murena now I think cause it’s on the table getting an update once in a while.
    by blu3h4t
  • > European alternative

    What about the regulatory side where all of Europe is starting to require stock Android or iOS to even have an ID card?

    by qurren
  • Funnily enough, the privacy subreddit has banned all mentions of alternative phone operating systems.
    by Cider9986
  • 750 USD? I like the idea. And appreciate all the people who support such products, so phones are getting cheaper. But no way I'm getting it for over $150. It looks really cheap, and the marketing is bad, honestly. I think these corporations have spoiled me, and I was really looking for huuuuge wow effect for $750, but it's just a Linux phone.
    by RomanPushkin
  • > But no way I'm getting it for over $150.

    So Pinephone seems to be what you're searching for.

    by fsflover
  • Careful with preordering, they seem to ignore requests to cancel & the community is rather hostile to any form of criticism
    by boesboes
  • Went from iPhone (with PostMarketOS on PinePhones as tests) to /e/OS on a CMF Nothing installed by Murena to GrapheneOS on 2nd hand Pixel 8.

    I'm not advocating any of those specifically but I do recommend you take whatever step you are comfortable with to a saner mobile technology lifestyle.

    IMHO it's a worthwhile learning journey that is probably less challenging and more empowering than you can imagine.

    by utopiah
  • For those who do not have the funds for anything else, its worth looking into uad-ng:

    https://github.com/Universal-Debloater-Alliance/universal-an...

    E.g. on most Samsung phones you can uninstall (from the user partition): third-party Meta/Microsoft/etc. apps, the McAfee app scanner that not enabled by default, Gemini, Bixbee, most Google apps, most Samsung apps, some analytics services. You can make a pretty vanilla phone with just OneUI.

    That said, best is to grab a Pixel, the only phone with an unlockable bootloader that also has modern device security (separate security processor, MTE, etc.). Installing GrapheneOS gives you a very pristine and quiet OS, while still providing great compatibility through sandboxed Google Play Services.

    Also the only OS that provides Android 17 now, besides Pixel OS (and obviously betas like the OneUI 9 beta).

    by microtonal
  • Jolla Phone 2026 is way better than C2, which was not even made by Jolla. This is a phoen that is made in Finland, OS is secure and field prooven for over 10years. GrapheneOS is just Android, Java bloat, Sailfish is pure Linux with Qt interface, which is also from Finland and used in automotive / industrial.

    Seems to be a quality phone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz_UGm9azOs

    by jooseppi2
  • Personal experience with Jolla: I bought their first mobile (still have it somewhere) that would be a "Linux Phone that run android app". Wanted to support it and was ready to expect some bugs but it did not work all. No support at all, most of android app did not work. The OS was not finished that it was already obsolete. And now there are doing it again like the first one never existed. I have zero trust in this company
    by CiTyBear
  • I was about to write the same. I even had a chance to meet their then CTO at their booth in WMC in Barcelona and complain in person but well …
    by aivisol
  • I don’t think they have the trust and platform stability to back up that price tag. But it’s always good to have more competition, so let’s see.
    by port11
  • I used it as a daily driver back in 2014/15 and it worked ok from what I remember.
    by alcasa
  • I still have my first Jolla from 2016. Still works and got updates till 2 years ago. The android stuff I used was minimal but worked fine except for bluetooth and nfc. I build my own mostly.
    by poetaster
  • Wanted to mention that Sailfish has a lot of closed-source components, especially UI-related, despite the overall marketing/"vibe" making it look very open. If anything, AOSP (Android) is more open than Sailfish. I don't think this has changed with Sailfish 5, see e.g.:

    - https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-os-clarifying-claims...

    - https://docs.sailfishos.org/Develop/Open_Source/

    by Tiberium
  • If the openness is important to you, you may want to have a look at other GNU/Linux phones, Librem 5 and Pinephone. The former runs an FSF-endorsed Debian derivative.
    by fsflover
  • They are (slowly) releasing more and more components

    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/open-sourcing-proceeding/2468...

    https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-weather/

    https://github.com/sailfishos/jolla-camera

    It's still more open than AOSP

    by mrbn100ful
  • Huh. I really don't see the point of this, vs something like GrapheneOS.

    Edit: I'm well aware of the differences between typical Linux and Android (especially the security architecture!), and I'm willing to make some sacrifices in the name of FOSS... but only if it's actually FOSS.

    by Retr0id