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- This makes me sad since it implies that the best LLM I will ever be allowed to use is GPT 5.5 and Opus 4.8. Anything smarter than that is deemed too risky.
So much wasted potential.
And why would I pay Anthropic or OpenAI once consumer hardware gets powerful enough to run an open weight Chinese version of Opus 4.8? Even more so when mobile phones are able to run similar LLMs.
Their financial growth looks doomed. It looks like they will be heavily regulated just like the next missile factory. This is antagonist to VC led turbo growth startup regime.
by bel8 - The last bit might be the point - this has all got a bit out of hand, the US government might have decided now is the time to prick this bubble.
Either because ordinary people hate it or (more likely) because Sam and Dario have got too powerful and they’re now starting to become a genuine rival castle to the US government in elite theory terms - of course at that point you get your wings clipped
by ifwinterco - Cannot you just obtain them the same way you would obtain any copyrighted material and use them locally?by johnisgood
- I share the sadness, but I'm not sure the consumer market was ever the main prize hereby HexPhantom
- Well, now I'm rooting for the Europeans/chinese to develop something better and release it.
One can hope.
by timurlenk - That's not what is implied. Fable may still be widely available.by andxor
- Right, I cancelled my Codex sub yesterday, it ends today. I'm not American and I see the writing on the wall, I'd just as soon improve my tooling to work more effectively with "stupider" open weight models than be dependent on Lutnick and Bessent for "permission" to use the frontier models.
Sad situation is that half the talent that did the primary research and initially created these models and got them out there was educated here or taught here or have citizenship here in Canada. Karpathy, Sutskever, Hinton, there's a huge list. And for other countries, too.
In the short term this play may work for the US administration, in the long run it will only reduce the flow of talent and good will and sharing between G7 nations.
- The LLM improvement curve will level off and with so many AI engineering being in China they will catch up quickly.
The financial growth based on that everyone on earth will need to have an OpenAI or Anthropic subscription is quickly falling apart.
DeepSeek V4 is good enough for most of my work that that I can no longer justify paying 100x for something else. The cost difference is astronomical.
by sschueller - How does my small company become a "trusted partner"?by exabrial
- Easy, pivot to the military industrial complex, dummy!by phaser
- Donate money to your President, probably.by apexalpha
- This administration doesn't care about small companies anymore than it cares about regular Americans.by goatlover
- Donate to his ballroom project, perhaps? Pay for tokens with his crypto coin?by flipbrad
- Oh you thought this was a competitive free market?by willsmith72
- Is there any scenario where it's not catastrophic for for the frontier labs?
They just got their market cut to a fraction. Investing in new tech is now very risky because even if things work out you might not be able to sell anything.
There were already serious doubts about ROI for the frontier labs. If they can only sell to 100 or so entities it's over business wise.
What's the endgame here?
by bluecalm - It's bad, very bad, for the frontier labs.by dansquizsoft
- Don't start to rely on it .
The US might remove access next month in a fit of pique.
The Chinese models look increasingly more reliable and safer.
by Alien1Being - Safer?by DANmode
- This is a pithy internet comment, but terrible advice.
Between the Chinese government and Anthropic, I know which one I'd rather send tokens to. For all of the problems of the US, for-profit corporations, data harvesting, etc. the CCP (and, perhaps more troublesome, its allies) is far less likely to align with your interests.
by tyre - I’m not sure what the US government is trying to do. At first it seems like they are just trying to stifle some company that said no. Now they are just doing free publicity. It’s like never before have I wanted to try something out as much as this.
They’re in effect saying “nothing else is as powerful as what Anthropic put out”. Even though that might not really be the case it’s what it sounds like.
by alanwreath - Is there any evidence at all that would convince you that they're trying to mitigate real risks that actually exist?
- Grift. It's all about the grift.by lawn
- they're flailing is what they're doingby drcode
- Cynic in me thinks it's some or all of the following:
- extract monetary contributions for their side of political spectrum from ai companies
- extract money for personal gain
- grokify ai answers on political / worldview topics, because polls are showing people trust ai answers more than wikipedia
by c2h5oh - Could you share some pictures of the rock you're living under? The US regime is concerned with furthering the interests of a closed circle of powerful loyals. This achieves that goal. Access is reserved to those loyals.by deaux
- It’s probably just basic corruption. Want access to Mythos for your company? Enrich someone in the administration. That’s how everything works now: they outlaw/tariff it and then you pay a bribe to get it back or get declared exempt.by ryandrake
- What’ll happen when Google Deep Mind go to release their next models, developed mostly in London?
Are Google going to end up in a situation where the people working on their models cannot use the models after launch?
- > What’ll happen when Google Deep Mind go to release their next models, developed mostly in London?
Unless you open source it then Google Deep Mind isn't the entity "releasing" it. It's some other Google that's US based, e.g. Google Cloud running the APIs etc.
User -> Google -> Google Deep Mind.
So nope, same restrictions apply.
by re-thc - Restrictions are on good models. You might as well ask what would happen when Microsoft open sources Officeby TiredOfLife
- It’s whatever the Trump admin decides. There are no rules here, we are past thatby dgellow