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  • One interesting thing that I couldn't find in these comments or in their docs (even in the https://herdr.dev/docs/preview/concepts/#mouse-ui section), is that Herdr supports native-feeling scroll. You can scroll with your mouse wheel. That to me is a killer feature over tmux
    by cush
  • I mean, assuming you're on tmux 3.6 or newer, try setting `set -g mouse on` in your tmux conf, then scrolling should just work. Should it be a default? Maybe. (edit: also lets you click on panes, adjust splits, etc.)
    by Ycros
  • Introducing... Zellij.
    by NamlchakKhandro
  • Multiplexing the agents is clearly the first obvious pain point, but the other one I keep encountering after this is visibility: with multiple agents running, it becomes difficult to see what each of them is doing, what program did they call, and where they are getting stuck until they complete or fail.

    Is there any information from Herdr about what each agent is up to beyond the output? Or does it just concentrate on orchestration for the time being?

    by kerlenton
  • I’ve been using herdr for about a week. There is visibility into which terminals need attention and you can set up workspaces to organize it. I’ve enjoyed it so far though the key bindings are all over the place - likely due to it trying to avoid existing bindings.
    by mikeryan
  • nice, not dissimilar to what i built for https://github.com/storozhenko98/beehive
    by mst98
  • time to ask AI what the best features in yours and Ops are and then merge them into my also similar project .
    by AgentMasterRace
  • I'd suggest adding a few screenshots on the Github README, otherwise I wouldn't have enough attention to imagine how it looks. I had to go to the website to appreciate your work, otherwise I'm like "what is it?"
    by w4yai
  • How does it compare with https://github.com/agent-of-empires/agent-of-empires
    by crashabr
  • Unlike Cmux, Herder will not call out to multiple web services upon start-up.
    by evanjrowley
  • What services is Cmux calling? The usual "updates" things or something more?
    by gonesurfing
  • I've been using this and it's been really nice for a specific use case: running agents locally alongside agents in a remote sandbox environment. Most apps managing this split seem to want to manage your sandbox for you, but we've already built out some nice tooling and infrastructure for that that meets our needs. I don't want to add a new vendor in the mix for our infra that may not exist in a year and that will be harder to integrate with. Combined with some additional tooling I made, herdr lets me easily connect to remote agent sessions, see their status in the sidebar and fluidly switch back to work on my local machine from one interface.
    by willdoenlen
  • Getting a lot of flack in all these comments, I really like this tool. Have been super easy to use and scale to multiple agents. I've had a ton of issues with tmux and copy and paste, this just works. I was using warp terminal, and even working on my own fork of it with it's recent open source status, but this has won me over.
    by zachncst
  • Herdr is great, I've been using it for over a month now. Their API is awesome too - you can build tools around it.
    by nullbio
  • Have you built anything around it? I was thinking it might be useful to potentially script based on space and tab name (like create dir named tab in space) and other little QOL workflow tweaks but haven't looked into it really.
    by skinfaxi
  • Will people really need a bunch of different agents? Even using two codex session for different project make me feel a bit overwhelmed, or may be i just old
    by mintflow
  • I usually have 5-8 at a time
    by shepherdjerred
  • yeah I also don't really see a use case for me, like do ppl really run that many agents in parallel that they cannot comfortably multiplex them using just a terminal emulator
    by rw_panic0_0
  • Nope, they need to signal, that they know what they are doing and chic, and very trendy. And agent cnt must be > 12, open windows cnt > 6 otherwise feels himself as a peasant.
    by lofaszvanitt
  • If you have more than one issue to work on, then you can open an agent for each one and go though them round-robin.

    Maybe very early on a greenfield project you only have one known issue (the next feature you're building), but other than that seems like short-changing yourself.

    by hombre_fatal
  • I found that a good tool helps a lot once I switched to Github Copilot app. It solved the friction and mental tax for me. I easily manage 4 sessions in parallel on same or different projects while 2 was max in the past. The bottleneck now is only in review and decision making.
    by zihotki
  • I often have many active. Bug investigations, writing code, reviewing, checking logs after deploys and so on.
    by fooster
  • Same. I haven't been able to see how people let agent loops run without significant steering and produce good quality software. VS Code with one or two integrated terminals running is fine for me. Or a couple of VS Code instances if I'm working one a couple of projects concurrently. The advantage of VS Code is the code / diff visibility if you like to be hands on.
    by gb2d_hn
  • Maybe not when answers will be almost instant, but the biggest gap to me now is latency, not capability. Having to wait for 5 minutes and more for an answer, I can switch to another project / feature / etc. and run work streams in parallel.
    by WinstonSmith84
  • I switched from tmux to Zellij a while back, and lately added a stop hook that sends a terminal ping to the correct tab when the agent is done (and I'm not looking at the tab). It has been pretty convenient so far.

    Added an example here:

    https://johnny.chadda.se/zellij-stop-hook/

    by joch
  • Nice!

    Does anyone know anything like this for Ghostty?

    by reddit_clone
  • The utility is not obvious, but I've been using herdr for a few weeks after a friend recommended it, and it's been a great tool.

    I had about a dozen different terminal windows, each one with multiple tabs, which was becoming a mess to manage; multiple agents and harnesses running that I could only inspect by remote access/VNC away from home.

    With this, I can keep things more organized (project workspaces, tabs), because it's backed by a persistent process, I can ssh into the machine, with tailscale, run herdr and see all active sessions, do some debugging and one-off prompts.

    Even better, I can do that from my phone and iPad using Prompt/Termius. It gives me the best part of 'xxclaw' harnesses with none of the complexity.

    by ricardobeat
  • Does herdr with termius on android support touch/tap operation? I tried herdr on mac, it works really great. But i tried access it via termius from my android, I can't tap/interact with it. Am i missing something?
    by bangau1
  • Couldn't you just use tmux for the remote access?
    by giwook
  • Once you get it set up, Emacs is a pretty damn good "agent" multiplexer as well. I use agent-shell with Projectile on Doom Emacs as my main workflow these days, and it works very well even if I have 6 projects open or whatever.

    Claude and Codex are also both quite good at working with Emacs as well. Depending on your isolation/sandboxing strategy, they can either run commands against your session via emacsclient (a bit scary) or dump elisp in the REPL for you to evaluate. Both are really efficient in terms of giving you a fast feedback loop.

    by isityettime