Discussion summary

The Department of Commerce lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5, allowing broader access. Reactions varied, with some questioning the impact and others concerned about usage and security.

What the discussion says

  • Some believe the lift will enable teams to do their best work.
  • Others doubt the short-term impact of Fable and Mythos on hiring.
  • Concerns about security and misuse of the AI models were raised.
There is no way Fable and Mythos had such an impact in such a short time.
rocketpastsix
They made the guardrails tighter, capturing more false positives.
ahknight

Comments

Hacker News

This is great news,

I'm sure many teams couldn't do their best work because Claude Fable 5 was unavailable.

I wonder what their hiring pages look like now, are they starting to remove job postings?

by colesantiago

there is no way Fable and Mythos had such an impact in such a short amount of time that people were hiring based on it.

by rocketpastsix

For how long lol

by alfiedotwtf

They asked Claude how to hide the Epstein files data that it found, so that even Claude and Mythos couldn't straight-up verify that Trump is a paedophile.

It took a lot of doing, but they finally managed it, so the plebs get to play with the toys again

by spacedcowboy

w00t

by unchocked

So much for way too dangerous end of the world

by Havoc

Basically not usable if it's only available via usage pricing.

by woggy

Something I am not seeing discussed is why the sudden reversal?

Could it be Antropic promised NSA direct access to everyone's queries or something? Maybe an opportunity for admin officials to get in early on their promised IPO?

I am not a conspiracy theorist but this admin especially doesn't relent for free.

by Matl

They made the guardrails tighter. Tight enough to capture more false positive requests, now. Yaaaaay.

by ahknight

So, uh, any chance us Claude subscription people are going to get the 11 days of Fable 5 access (at non API pricing) we were deprived of?

by modriano

Okay, but what has changed?

by theHocineSaad

The Chinese are clearly great at distilling current SOTA models. And yes they are crushing on energy infra buildout, especially with American NIMBYs and general Marxist degrowth mindsets.

They still don't have a clear path to create their own SOTA models, especially if American ones become more and more locked down, and they can't distill so easily.

Honestly I think the SpaceX orbital plan is the only hope of maintaining the US lead in the long run.

by Rover222

The question is how lobotomized will it be now?

by HDBaseT

Do these actions strike anyone else as theater?

by pfannkuchen

Huh did not expect them to lift restrictions this soon.

by impodimium

Almost as though they were indefensible bullshit to begin with. I wonder who extorted whom and for how much.

Like gee, that was fast. If this had any bearing on reality, one would imagine the vetting process would take actual time and that there would be a real, material difference between what we knew then and what we know now.

The cartoon bullshit theater is exhausting.

by jknoepfler

They need Lehane or… since OpenAI got him, what is Fabiani up to these days?

by natch

Just let people use their subscriptions for Fable. Permanently. All of it. Even if it runs out at 10% of the equivalent Opus use. Let people choose, there’s nothing to be gained by not allowing users to exhaust their subscriptions rapidly on this other than ill will.

by Chance-Device

It was just a matter of the right amount of money going into the right person's hands.

by jmull

I wonder if Anthropic servers can handle the load their going to get tomorrow. Unless it’s a staged rollout

by jbritton

Surprised this post has less engagement than the Sonnet announcement. Much bigger deal, even with caveats.

by AussieWog93

Let me guess, somebody magically set some huge bets on poly and stock market 5 minutes before the announcement ?

by low_tech_love

Considering Fable will be effectively unusable, while still triggering polymarket payouts by being technically available, I wouldn't be surprised if this so-called "restoration" was done entirely to deepen certain pockets.

by phendrenad2

Who knows - this could be the last model we see from Anthropic. Or it just becomes the wild west and we figure it out as we go.

by tjohnell

For non-Americans especially it does look possible to be the last one.

by Tenoke

Isn't it the wild west already?

On a lark, I asked Claude to compare AI to the wild west a while ago. It raised three points of similarity:

- Land-grab economics

- Lack of regulation

- Changing social and professional attitudes.

Whatever it is, it's a wild ride regardless.

by alex_anglin

The constant hype marketing from Anthropic probably did not help in the end. I think that had something to do with it.

by CommanderData

I could barely use Fable before (I work in life science) and now they're adding more restrictions? Well good thing Opus is solid

by DonsDiscountGas

Debating if I should re-sub to the Max plan now (in case they grandfather people in some how) or if I should just wait and see what they announce.

by poopyscoopy

They announced a generous 3.5 days of subscription usage, plus a broken classifier.

by user43928

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  • Hacker News
  • This is great news,

    I'm sure many teams couldn't do their best work because Claude Fable 5 was unavailable.

    I wonder what their hiring pages look like now, are they starting to remove job postings?

    by colesantiago
  • there is no way Fable and Mythos had such an impact in such a short amount of time that people were hiring based on it.
    by rocketpastsix
  • For how long lol
    by alfiedotwtf
  • They asked Claude how to hide the Epstein files data that it found, so that even Claude and Mythos couldn't straight-up verify that Trump is a paedophile.

    It took a lot of doing, but they finally managed it, so the plebs get to play with the toys again

    by spacedcowboy
  • w00t
    by unchocked
  • So much for way too dangerous end of the world
    by Havoc
  • Basically not usable if it's only available via usage pricing.
    by woggy
  • Something I am not seeing discussed is why the sudden reversal?

    Could it be Antropic promised NSA direct access to everyone's queries or something? Maybe an opportunity for admin officials to get in early on their promised IPO?

    I am not a conspiracy theorist but this admin especially doesn't relent for free.

    by Matl
  • They made the guardrails tighter. Tight enough to capture more false positive requests, now. Yaaaaay.
    by ahknight
  • So, uh, any chance us Claude subscription people are going to get the 11 days of Fable 5 access (at non API pricing) we were deprived of?
    by modriano
  • Okay, but what has changed?
    by theHocineSaad
  • The Chinese are clearly great at distilling current SOTA models. And yes they are crushing on energy infra buildout, especially with American NIMBYs and general Marxist degrowth mindsets.

    They still don't have a clear path to create their own SOTA models, especially if American ones become more and more locked down, and they can't distill so easily.

    Honestly I think the SpaceX orbital plan is the only hope of maintaining the US lead in the long run.

    by Rover222
  • The question is how lobotomized will it be now?
    by HDBaseT
  • Do these actions strike anyone else as theater?
    by pfannkuchen
  • Huh did not expect them to lift restrictions this soon.
    by impodimium
  • Almost as though they were indefensible bullshit to begin with. I wonder who extorted whom and for how much.

    Like gee, that was fast. If this had any bearing on reality, one would imagine the vetting process would take actual time and that there would be a real, material difference between what we knew then and what we know now.

    The cartoon bullshit theater is exhausting.

    by jknoepfler
  • They need Lehane or… since OpenAI got him, what is Fabiani up to these days?
    by natch
  • Just let people use their subscriptions for Fable. Permanently. All of it. Even if it runs out at 10% of the equivalent Opus use. Let people choose, there’s nothing to be gained by not allowing users to exhaust their subscriptions rapidly on this other than ill will.
    by Chance-Device
  • It was just a matter of the right amount of money going into the right person's hands.
    by jmull
  • I wonder if Anthropic servers can handle the load their going to get tomorrow. Unless it’s a staged rollout
    by jbritton
  • Surprised this post has less engagement than the Sonnet announcement. Much bigger deal, even with caveats.
    by AussieWog93
  • Let me guess, somebody magically set some huge bets on poly and stock market 5 minutes before the announcement ?
    by low_tech_love
  • Considering Fable will be effectively unusable, while still triggering polymarket payouts by being technically available, I wouldn't be surprised if this so-called "restoration" was done entirely to deepen certain pockets.
    by phendrenad2
  • Who knows - this could be the last model we see from Anthropic. Or it just becomes the wild west and we figure it out as we go.
    by tjohnell
  • For non-Americans especially it does look possible to be the last one.
    by Tenoke
  • Isn't it the wild west already?

    On a lark, I asked Claude to compare AI to the wild west a while ago. It raised three points of similarity:

    - Land-grab economics

    - Lack of regulation

    - Changing social and professional attitudes.

    Whatever it is, it's a wild ride regardless.

    by alex_anglin
  • The constant hype marketing from Anthropic probably did not help in the end. I think that had something to do with it.
    by CommanderData
  • I could barely use Fable before (I work in life science) and now they're adding more restrictions? Well good thing Opus is solid
    by DonsDiscountGas
  • Debating if I should re-sub to the Max plan now (in case they grandfather people in some how) or if I should just wait and see what they announce.
    by poopyscoopy
  • They announced a generous 3.5 days of subscription usage, plus a broken classifier.
    by user43928

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