Discussion summary

Nintendo announced new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries, complying with EU regulations. Discussions focus on battery removability, third-party options, and regional differences.

What the discussion says

  • Regulations define a removable battery as one that can be changed with normal tools.
  • Concerns about the complexity of replacing batteries and third-party options.
  • Companies may release improved versions only in regions with legal requirements.
Basically changeable with normal tools and safely without risk of destroying the battery or product.
jackvalentine
A portable battery should be considered removable if it can be taken out without damaging the device.
kalleboo

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  • So now the rest of the world will try to put a hand on these models. Lets see how this goes.
  • It's kinda crazy that they're releasing an improved version only in places where it's mandatory by law. You'd think it's cheaper (and definitely better PR) to just release the new version everywhere.
  • Unfortunately, programmed obsolesce is the unspoken motto for most companies. Only fierce competition or regulation can push them to do a better job.
  • Related page posted on 04-jun-2026: "Compliance with EU Directives and Regulations" https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Corporate/Consumer-Informatio... (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48402926)
  • Interesting, in the fineprint they actually confirm that they set the "Switch 1" End-Of-Life by Feb.2027 and stop selling it.

    This means they will lose the revenue of that product-line (currently ~15% of their total hardware unit sales according to their fiscal report [0]), which may help accelerate the need for a "lite" version of the Switch2 to recover this market-segment...

    ...or not, because console sales is generally dropping and there's actually no competition to Nintendo in the handheld console segment...

    Bleak times ahead for the gaming industry, and for the gamers...

    [0] https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2026/260203_2e.pdf

  • Not sure what they'll do (Maybe they'll release Switch2 Lite or Switch 2 OLED in Q2/Q3 2027). but I guess like Apple stopped with Lightning until they finished their transition to USB-C they'll just let the transition work.
  • Wish they'd do a Switch 2 edition without a screen. I use mine (Switch 1) 100% docked.
  • The push for replaceable batteries is coming just as battery life is increasing.[1] We're already seeing that with electric cars. When solid-state batteries finally come out in volume, they should outlast the devices they go into. The big players are saying that solid state batteries in phone size should start shipping in 2027. Cars are further off.

    [1] https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2026/05/20/...

  • Honestly, amazing stuff. For all the flak that the EU gets this is absolutely an essential regulation
  • This. The top problems facing the world are gaming consoles' charging sources. Everything else is thankfully solved.
  • It might be a good regulation but it is definitely not essential!
    by wilg
  • They will still get all the flak, facts never mattered.
  • One might argue that this is one of the reason why the EU is getting flak: because it sets up regulations that lower some companies profit.
  • Glad to live in the EU, but then we also have Chat Control trying to pass again.
  • Brussels effect, please do your magic; thanks.
  • Brussels effect, please do your magic; thanks.

    "Brussels Effect" is the new "California Emissions."

  • >Nintendo Switch, Nintendo Switch Lite, and Nintendo Switch – OLED Model will all continue to be manufactured in 2026, and should be widely available in Europe all year.

    >From mid-February 2027, almost ten years after Nintendo Switch launched in March 2017, Nintendo will no longer sell to retailers hardware in the Nintendo Switch family of systems – specifically Nintendo Switch, Nintendo Switch Lite and Nintendo Switch – OLED Model. Sales of Nintendo Switch hardware on Nintendo Store will also end in mid-February 2027.

    Understandable, but maybe that shouldn't be buried in the FAQ...

  • More complete:

    The below products will not be replaced by versions that contain user-replaceable batteries in Europe:

    - Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) Controller for Nintendo Switch

    - Pokémon™ GO Plus +

    - Nintendo Switch

    - Nintendo Switch Lite

    - Nintendo Switch – OLED Model

    - Nintendo Switch Pro Controller

    - SEGA Mega Drive Control Pad for Nintendo Switch

    - Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES) Controller for Nintendo Switch

    Nintendo will no longer offer the above-named products on Nintendo Store after mid-February 2027.

  • I almost bought a Switch 2 but then remembered this was going into effect. Decided to push it off and keep using my still quite functional Switch 1 until I can get one.

    Why would anyone not want a user replaceable battery ?

    I also specifically ordered an electric toothbrush from UK Amazon awhile back that was (on the surface) identical to the American version. The UK and EU version however had a sort of (not super easy but still not that hard) user replaceable battery. Because they had to redesign with a user replaceable battery it uses a fairly standard sized lithium rechargeable (I forget the exact size - smaller than an 18650 but somewhat common).

    The side effect of this was the battery inside is also much higher quality and much higher capacity than the US version. The diameter of the device is slightly larger (to accommodate the larger battery) which also fits my hands better. Even if I never replace the battery the device itself lasts insanely long between charges which is a huge plus. The cost was the same (excluding a small extra charge for shipping).

  • Amazes me they don't just sell it like that everywhere because it sounds a lot like a product improvement...

    > The revised products will be available on a rolling basis in territories where Nintendo of Europe conducts business, either directly or through a distributor, namely: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Arab Emirates, and the United Kingdom.

  • I would prefer the current versions without anything replaceable. I have the Switch bought on day 1 and a Pro Controller which is 9 years old. Yes, the Switch was mostly used docked, but the battery is last thing failing there, it rather has issues with the fan, the screen scratches etc. The controller works perfectly and I charge it once a month. The replaceable battery would only make it less solid.

    The biggest Switch issue by far is joystick drift on joycons. I've replaced 3 on my Switch 2 already and we have the same issue on the new Switch 2 in the office.

  • It’s infuriating that it’s not just the default, especially for a game console where the majority of profit is coming from software sales.

    Every Switch that becomes unplayable where fixing it costs more than a $20 battery replacement is a console that is not buying games from the Nintendo eShop.

  • Quite a few of these aren't EU members, some aren't even in Europe; do we know why they were added? e.g.: Switzerland or United Kingdom; but also Oman or United Arab Emirates.
  • > Amazes me they don't just sell it like that everywhere because it sounds a lot like a product improvement...

    I'm not so sure. The first laptop I bought, a Titanium Powerbook, had replaceable batteries. And even better than that: you could hot-swap them while the laptop was running on battery power, and the laptop wouldn't even shut off. It felt leagues ahead of even modern replaceable battery functionality, and honestly? After owning that laptop for years, I felt like I just wasted my money with that additional battery.

    Part of it, I'm sure, was that I didn't have an external charger to charge the battery not currently in the laptop. But on the whole, it just didn't feel like it was actually worthwhile, and when Apple stopped shipping replaceable batteries, I've never missed it.

    (Hot swapping the batteries really was awesome, though)

  • According to their latest fiscal report [0], Europe sales-volume of Switch2 is ~24% of the total global sales volume.

    The change surely eats into their margin per device, so they prefer to keep the higher margin for the rest of the world and recalculate their margin for europe.

    However interesting: "The Americas" sells 34% of all Switch2 in the world [0]. I wouldn't expect the US to mandate the same changes, but if e.g. Canada or Brazil also demand replaceable batteries, it could push the needle to making it a default HW-feature of Switch2...

    [0] https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2026/260203_2e.pdf

  • "There is no difference in functionality between current products and revised products containing user-replaceable batteries."

    So there was nothing "limiting" them from making it already with user-replaceable batteries, they just didn't care enough until EU forced them (like all the smartphone brands). Love EU.

  • > they just didn't care enough

    Of course there are extra costs. The parts and the extra assembly isn't free and it does add up.

  • Except for an up-to-16% reduction in capacity, and slightly increased weight, depending on the product.
  • While it's not functionality, the batteries will be physically smaller, and thus less capacity.
  • Battery life is shorter, and some are a tad heavier.