Discussion summary
The discussion revolves around a Telegram client built for Pi, clarifying that Pi refers to an agent, not the Raspberry Pi. Participants share related projects, tools, and ideas for managing agents and improving TUI experiences.
What the discussion says
- Pi is an agent, not Raspberry Pi.
- Various projects like Signal client and TUI libraries are mentioned.
- Suggestions for Dockerizing and managing agents remotely.
- Use of Tailscale for network access control.
“Pi is an agent harness, not Raspberry Pi.”
“I use telegram daily and want to run it on my NAS.”
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- This is awesome, I use telegram as my main chat app with all of my friends and coworkers. Now I need to figure out how to dockerize this and run it on my NAS so it's not reliant on my laptop being online.
Maybe can figure out a workflow to make a branch, deploy it and give me a cloudflare tunnel link to test it, and if approved merge the changes into main branch and deploy to prod. The vibes are off the charts.
by mfkp - "A normal DM is one pi session by default." A single message, or a single message thread? Both are pretty extreme trade-offs to make, honestly. I spent a bunch of time looking at how the various Claws do this, and I settled on an idle timeout causing the next message to start a new session, but I also built /continue, /new, and a /resume that shows recent sessions with a telegram keyboard.by CGamesPlay
- Congrats on releasing this.
OTOH all my attempts of driving harnesses via chat have been frustrating because they all fail against the fact that I want to see the code and mobile devices are not really good at that.
Better on tablets, but even there I get more value on having final html artifacts pushed on a server and inspecting them, and dashboards.
Is there some obvious use case I am missing? Or tool for inspecting code?
I don’t run openclaw et al, is that a context where you find this valuable?
by rufasterisco - I build a Signal client for Swival: https://github.com/swival/nbclaw
And I use it daily for simple tasks.
by jedisct1 - NB: "Pi" in this context refers to an agent harness of some sort, and does not refer to the Raspberry Pi.
I was confused.
by stackghost - So I guess we (and a lot of other people) have had the same problem, which is managing your agents on the go. I decided to build a plugin[1] for my terminal multiplexer (herdr) to access the sessions via PWA served through a tailnet.by asar
- I like the idea of being able to use agents from my phone. Termux is nice, but not very good on small screens.
So I tried Hermes, it had first-class telegram support, but then I never use it for coding and was asking it to delegate to codex / pi. There wasn't much I was gaining from hermes, so I stopped using it.
Then I started using Pi more and liked its extensability. Pi is the first software I have forked and developing to meet my needs. I genuinely love how extensible it is.
I was in the market to see any extensions that help me run Pi, and sure enough there were. One was from Mario himself, the creator of Pi (https://github.com/badlogic/pi-telegram), but it was a bridge instead of being a client itself. I need to start a chat in the TUI and then continue it in telegram. I didn't like that. Most others were same.
So I built my own!
- To all the haters to not knowing what "pi" means in this context. Is mario zechner's ai agent / coding harness [1][2], similar in spirit albeit much less complex to claude code or openai's codex and others.
I wouldn't call it third tier. If anything alongside opencode, and codex, its one of the "first tier" and the only non-VC-backed (at least before mario joined earendil (idk about earendil raising or not)
anyways. Pi is good. I dont need a telegram client for it, but this precisely show why pi is great, because its really easy to extend pi building plugins or modifying the source (yay, open source)
peace
by tough