Discussion summary
Rowboat is an open-source, local-first AI tool that aims to be a feature-rich alternative to Claude Desktop. Users are excited about its potential, but some express concerns about the need for more genuine, built-from-scratch solutions.
What the discussion says
- Users appreciate the feature set and potential of Rowboat.
- Some critics call for more original, less wrapper-based AI tools.
- Concerns about the development time and ongoing feature completeness.
- Interest in contributing to the project and improving its capabilities.
“Really cool, how long did something like this take to build?”
“This looks great, but let's see if I have this right ...”
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- All I want in an AI is this:
1. cd <myVeryImportantProject.repo> 2. start_AI_agent_REPL 3. "hey AI, analyze the code base in this repo, and find any and all bugs related to 'e.g. porting from 32bit -> 64bit architecture', create work branches for the bug fixes, submit a PR at the repo site for each fix" 4. Goto 3.
I want to be able to treat my AI/ML assistant as a daemon I can turn on and off for any repo - I do not want it to be running all the time, I don't want an email interface to it, I don't want it to analyze my system to try to help me, I want it to be treated like any other system service I will enable and disable, per-directory, manually.
Everything else - the desktop app, the in-built browser, the Obsidian note-taking system - is pure noise, and it immediately disqualifies Rowboat from any investment on my part.
Just a simple daemon style approach, with a REPL, an interface to Git, and THAT IS ALL.
There will be a time and place for a whole new radical UI to AI/ML in my personal laboratory - that time is when I get a brand new machine dedicated just to AI/ML and only put things on it that I want to put on it. Not my personal machine, not my development machine - a machine that will only function as a junior AI/ML-based software developer in my team, with an interface to Git that is standard and battle-tested over years and years of actual work - and nothing else.
I know this tool is out there. I continue to swim through the junk to find it, however.
Rowboat is instantly disqualified from my environment by bringing in too many bells and whistles - all of it junk, because I will have to learn to manage it all anew, and that is not what I want in an AI/ML agent.
Anything which detracts from having AI/ML sandboxed as a daemon and its only interface through the current .git/config for the repo I'm applying it to, is noise and nonsense.
by MomsAVoxell - I actually was using this quite a lot earlier this year, thanks for this!
What I actually ended up doing was regularly pointing Claude at the Rowboat directory. Really useful to have all of this context available as markdown files.
I use my own standard format for all context capsules, and had my own branch running with that format hacked in.
Being able to describe the format in a plugin style architecture would be awesome.
Granola notes silently stopped working when they decided to encrypt the DB, interesting to see you've got your own in there now.
Will check it out again.
by _puk - Really interesting, thanks for creating this. I've been slow to adopt the desktop apps (although use the web interface and VS code plugins for all the main players). This might just be the point at which there's a vendor-agnostic option worth investing my effort into setting up.
My question is, can I interact with it over mobile? If I'm away from the desktop, and I want to check-in with it (query the .knowledge, or trigger some coding task etc), is there that option?
by QuicklyNow - Look really great! I'm a bit sad that the only way to connect to email is gmail. Is a generic IMAP connector on your roadmap?by dr_hooo
- The growing problem with this and many other AI offerings is the asymmetry of effort.
All of them take my notes, meeting transcripts, jira tickets, code, websites, and give me more to read.
Then everyone else in the org is doing the same, to give me more to read. At the end of the day there is too much to read.
AI is supposed to be reducing toil, but it's just making more.
by ActionHank - Looks great. Is there an onboarding/xfer workflow from an existing Claude code harness?
I’ve spent a ridiculous amount of time building my wiki, feature plans, retrospectives, client overviews, meta overview, log, skills, commands and the barrier to trying a new command surface or agent is always “will I maintain my edge”.
Or am I misunderstanding? Is it that I would just spawn windows to that existing harness and get to harvest additive features/data from rowboat on top?
Edit - my typical approach would be to scrape out features from a tool like this to bolt onto my harness, why would I not do that here?
- What I'm looking for right now is a tool like this that lets more than one person participate in the conversation: right now Claude Code and similar tools are great for working alone, but I'd like to effectively pair-prompt with a partner who can see what's happening, and take turns steering the conversation.
Can Rowboat do this? If not, does anybody know a harness that can?
by dannyobrien - Rowboat markets itself as "local-first," but if you look in the actual codebase, transcription is Deepgram cloud, voice is ElevenLabs, analytics is PostHog, and the LLM is a cloud API.