Discussion summary

MacSurf 1.68 brings NetSurf to OS 9, appreciated by retro computing enthusiasts. Users discuss browser options for old Macs and share experiences with the software.

What the discussion says

  • Retro computing fans are excited about MacSurf and NetSurf.
  • Some users mention alternative browsers like PaleMoon and Chrome via Boot Camp.
  • There is interest in contributing to NetSurf's development.
Very cool to see this progress, and I am a big fan of NetSurf.
system7rocks
I wish more people contributed to Netsurf and it gets the momentum it needs.
thisislife2

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  • Awesome stuff! I love retro computing especially with Macs.

    But it's a bit weird that old PPC Macs get modern browsers, but Intel Macs running 10.14 are stuck with Firefox 115esr.

  • Hmm, no, you have latest Chrome, via Boot Camp ;)
  • Not working, “Bad Parameter”
  • Check the newest release!
  • I've pushed a couple stability fixes, give it a try if you get the chance. Thanks!
  • I'm trying to figure this out now, I can't replicate it myself. Actual hardware of emulation? Spinning disk drive of SSD?
  • This is awesome and greatly appreciated, going to boot up my iMac G4 and give it a go.
  • Awesome! Please let me know how it goes (good or bad) I am always open to feedback.
  • Wow. Just wow, I will give this a run on my old iMac G4 later today. Very cool to see this progress, and I am a big fan of NetSurf.
  • Yeah, I wish more people contributed to Netsurf and it gets the momentum it needs to compete with Blink, Gecko and Webkit. So many divided efforts in this area - there's Ladybird, Flow, Servo, Goanna. Even just improving Webkit and making it truly multi-platform (it isn't available for Windows, and the Linux version is apparently not as performant) would greatly even the field.
  • Having issues with MacSurf? I have set up a web page for you to send me MacSurf logs to help with debugging issues and crashes. I also have a version that has much strong logging so we can really see what's going on. http://macsurf.org/debugs.html - Works with IE 5 or Netscape.
  • Writing a JS engine for OS 9 in 2026 is like, genuinely impressive
  • Seriously. I am going to check this out. Otherwise, I can only use the last release of tenfourfox on my g4 but only through the https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice proxy running on another machine.
  • The single biggest change since 1.5 is under the hood: MacSurf's JavaScript engine has been replaced. Duktape (ES5) is gone; MacSurf now runs macQJS which is a QuickJS port for Classic Mac OS and executes modern ES2023 JavaScript natively on Mac OS 9.
  • This needs to backported to main Netsurf ASAP.