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> he trigger was watching deepseek-flash fail on the simplest /review run, every shellCommand and readFile call bouncing back with a raw zod issues blob, the model unable to recover because the error wasn't in a form it could read. by the end deepseek v4 pro was beating opus 4.7 6/10 times on our internal evals.

I think this is why Xiaomi forked OpenCode and created their own agent hardness, to reduce friction between model and harness:

https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code

by bel8

probably yep, i doubt they'll be able to maintain that well. we did a lot of work improving MiMo's cache thrashing, it was pretty bad early on. Now we're seeing 97% cache rate on their models after lots of prefix work.

by ahmadawais

hey HN, sharing harness engineering deep dive on tool calling repairs for open models. i've been thinking about why "open model bad at tool calling" is almost always a harness problem, not a model problem. spent time looking at billions of tokens from DeepSeek (and other open models) in our coding agent. ended up building a tool-input repair layer on top of Zod. by the end, DeepSeek V4 Pro was beating Opus 4.7 in 6/10 of our internal evals. the main things that helped:

- most failures came from a small set of recurring schema mistakes - switched from preprocess-then-validate to validate-then-repair - handled some weird cases like markdown auto-links leaking into file paths

full writeup: https://x.com/MrAhmadAwais/status/2050956678502420612

video version (more detailed): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f61DCDwvFis

by ahmadawais

Thanks! Nice findings.

Is the output, that others can use, the research and findings, or is there a tool or something that came out of this that I can plug in to one of the common harnesses?

I guess that brief note in the twit is that it'll be part of that harness you're opening up in the future?

by kadoban

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  • > he trigger was watching deepseek-flash fail on the simplest /review run, every shellCommand and readFile call bouncing back with a raw zod issues blob, the model unable to recover because the error wasn't in a form it could read. by the end deepseek v4 pro was beating opus 4.7 6/10 times on our internal evals.

    I think this is why Xiaomi forked OpenCode and created their own agent hardness, to reduce friction between model and harness:

    https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code

    by bel8
  • probably yep, i doubt they'll be able to maintain that well. we did a lot of work improving MiMo's cache thrashing, it was pretty bad early on. Now we're seeing 97% cache rate on their models after lots of prefix work.
    by ahmadawais
  • hey HN, sharing harness engineering deep dive on tool calling repairs for open models. i've been thinking about why "open model bad at tool calling" is almost always a harness problem, not a model problem. spent time looking at billions of tokens from DeepSeek (and other open models) in our coding agent. ended up building a tool-input repair layer on top of Zod. by the end, DeepSeek V4 Pro was beating Opus 4.7 in 6/10 of our internal evals. the main things that helped:

    - most failures came from a small set of recurring schema mistakes - switched from preprocess-then-validate to validate-then-repair - handled some weird cases like markdown auto-links leaking into file paths

    full writeup: https://x.com/MrAhmadAwais/status/2050956678502420612

    video version (more detailed): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f61DCDwvFis

    by ahmadawais
  • Thanks! Nice findings.

    Is the output, that others can use, the research and findings, or is there a tool or something that came out of this that I can plug in to one of the common harnesses?

    I guess that brief note in the twit is that it'll be part of that harness you're opening up in the future?

    by kadoban

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