Discussion summary

Fable 5 access was extended on paid plans until July 12, sparking mixed reactions. Users expressed frustration over usage resets, costs, and perceived value, while some appreciated continued access.

What the discussion says

  • Some users are frustrated with usage resets and costs.
  • Others appreciate the extended access despite limitations.
  • Critics mention the high expense and compare it to other models.
Lots of 'missed' Fable time because I was pacing it for a reset 5 days
linsomniac
Very expensive, not sure how it fits in with many companies' pricing
Computer0

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Hacker News

Only inferior, talentless and lower intelligence developers need to rely on LLMs.

Fortunately, you're all going to be jobless when the AI boom fizzles out and it becomes cost prohibitive to use these products once VCs aren't subsidising it. Then us real developers will be laughing.

by zjsjns

Man, this "Fable" has been rough. Last week we get access to it again, then they reset usage after a day or two with no warning. Lots of "missed" Fable time because I was pacing it for a reset 5 days down the line. Use up all my Fable time last week, resets Sunday and I don't have enough work projects to burn up the tokens by today, so I burn them on some toy and side projects, which I wouldn't have done if I knew I was going to have it until Sunday. Now I'm at 100% and they give out more access.

It would have been WAY more useful for them to announce the extension, you know, yesterday. This is basically the worst time for them to announce it. Bunch of goobers, who thought this would be a good idea?

by linsomniac

> Use up all my Fable time last week

I'm spending more time catering to Fable and Anthropic's B.S. than solving problems with Fable. I'm increasingly convinced not getting this deeply baked into single models and going back deep learning on topics of interest is both more fun and useful. (This week: chlorophyll chemistry under heat, also the Sri Lankan civil war.)

by JumpCrisscross

...because there's not enough token addicts and we need a proper set of whales.

by cyanydeez

Thank you, Anthropic. This random drop in the bucket wants you to know that this was a big deal for them!

by bbor

Rather smart way to keep a bunch of subscriptions subscribed.

I still feel a bit salty I got so much less out of the time I thought I was buying. And I stayed up late asking Fable for what giant leaps and potentials and architectural rewrites might benefit various side projects, so I kind of got what I wanted.

But I'll probably keep one of my pro accounts, for just a bit more usage.

by jauntywundrkind

I half expected OpenAI to make GPT 5.6 available today, just to tempt people to switch over. Either way, I'm glad Fable is staying accessible, it's been fun.

by dicey

Very expensive, not sure how it fits in with many companies seemingly trying to get employees using models at about Sonnet tier pricing. I certainly would never pay API rates for it, using ccusage I am seeing myself "use" $150-$400 worth of fable per day. (https://www.theinformation.com/articles/tesla-caps-employee-...)

by Computer0

That's funny. Sonnet is not great in my opinion. I mean, it often amazes me with its creativity, and I do prefer its style over most bigger models from other providers.

But it also constantly just does dumb things that make me slap my forehead. Opus is a lot better but the slap ratio has not reached 0 yet. Fable seems a bit better there, more testing needed.

But yeah, VC money ran out, now we wait for Moore's Law... :)

--

Re: Sonnet-ish-pricing. GLM-5.2 is cheaper than that, and appears to be "Opus-ish" in quality. I've been having a reasonably fine time with it. My experience is that it's "very solid for small and medium tasks", haven't tested it for anything bigger though.

by andai

like a fent plug on Market st

by yieldcrv

Anyone got any usage left to use it ?

by asasidh

Meh... Waiting for OpenAI models without this 5 more days subscription bullshit.

It looks like Anthropic baiting people into Max subscriptions before turning the model off. No thank you.

by k9294

does it matter much? i find my claude code experience always downgraded from fable to opus anyway.

by nh43215rgb

On July 12th they will extend it again.

by Sevii

Perhaps. I don’t blame them for short horizons given capacity constraints, government mayhem, etc. Promising anything more than a week at a time seems fraught.

by brookst

Anthropic: reminder that DeepSeek-V4 GA version is expected to debut on July 13 as showcase for the release of the Huawei Ascend 950dt

by fcanesin

Still definitely not trying it if I'm gonna lose access on my subscription plan.

"First hit is free", indeed.

by kelnos

I knew this was going to happen. It’s just part of Dario’s hype strategy.

by theplumber

Looks like we are at the end of the frontier-level models at subscription pricing. After this grace period, it will be double the cost at paid-per-token usage. I’m counting on the other models to compete at the subscription level and I need my harness to be agnostic. I need an AI harness that lets me switch LLM models dynamically depending on the task.

by hbarka

> I need an AI harness that lets me switch LLM models dynamically depending on the task.

OpenRouter put up something about this a few days ago. Check out their Advisor and Subagent docs.

by skeledrew

I believe these labs really nailed the restrictions on independence for these models. I have seen collegues coding bs with fable 5. Genuinely, the skill issues is feel by the agent and the output is alike

by isaac77

Hmm, so I planned to use all my allowance in 6 hours time (the time they said it would be around until) for the week and then they extend it so that I burned almost all of them in a wasteful way without having the time to review things properly.

by dsmurrell

Anyone understand what the point is of only extending it for 5 days?

by gwd

easier to plan/estimate compute for 5 days than for a month. worst case you only have 5 "unprofitable" days

by rootatixww3

Everyone scrambling to max their usage before the deadline may have given Anthropic some valuable data on exactly how much compute they can handle. The extension could also be a play to minimize the effect of OpenAI's next move.

Even if they grant a reset, the ball is now in OpenAI's court.

by winterbourne

Let's be real: Fable 5 on API pricing is so expensive that most solo devs won't be able to use it outside of a pro or max plan. Exceptions might be individuals with highly profitable businesses or mini side projects.

by morgengold

Why don't they just continue to give you Fable access but have it use quota at 4x or 8x so they at least let people on plans continue to use it, even a little?

I'm already using it judiciously because I tried ultracode with it and it ate my 5h quota while only getting halfway through the problem.

by zeafoamrun

I have a feeling they are waiting for the upcoming ChatGPT release to decide.

by pkaye

I planned to use all my allowance in 6 hours time (the time they said it would be around until) for the week and then they extend it so that I burned almost all of them in a wasteful way without having the time to review things properly.

by dsmurrell

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  • Hacker News
  • Only inferior, talentless and lower intelligence developers need to rely on LLMs.

    Fortunately, you're all going to be jobless when the AI boom fizzles out and it becomes cost prohibitive to use these products once VCs aren't subsidising it. Then us real developers will be laughing.

    by zjsjns
  • Man, this "Fable" has been rough. Last week we get access to it again, then they reset usage after a day or two with no warning. Lots of "missed" Fable time because I was pacing it for a reset 5 days down the line. Use up all my Fable time last week, resets Sunday and I don't have enough work projects to burn up the tokens by today, so I burn them on some toy and side projects, which I wouldn't have done if I knew I was going to have it until Sunday. Now I'm at 100% and they give out more access.

    It would have been WAY more useful for them to announce the extension, you know, yesterday. This is basically the worst time for them to announce it. Bunch of goobers, who thought this would be a good idea?

    by linsomniac
  • > Use up all my Fable time last week

    I'm spending more time catering to Fable and Anthropic's B.S. than solving problems with Fable. I'm increasingly convinced not getting this deeply baked into single models and going back deep learning on topics of interest is both more fun and useful. (This week: chlorophyll chemistry under heat, also the Sri Lankan civil war.)

    by JumpCrisscross
  • by goplayoutside
  • ...because there's not enough token addicts and we need a proper set of whales.
    by cyanydeez
  • Thank you, Anthropic. This random drop in the bucket wants you to know that this was a big deal for them!
    by bbor
  • Rather smart way to keep a bunch of subscriptions subscribed.

    I still feel a bit salty I got so much less out of the time I thought I was buying. And I stayed up late asking Fable for what giant leaps and potentials and architectural rewrites might benefit various side projects, so I kind of got what I wanted.

    But I'll probably keep one of my pro accounts, for just a bit more usage.

    by jauntywundrkind
  • I half expected OpenAI to make GPT 5.6 available today, just to tempt people to switch over. Either way, I'm glad Fable is staying accessible, it's been fun.
    by dicey
  • Very expensive, not sure how it fits in with many companies seemingly trying to get employees using models at about Sonnet tier pricing. I certainly would never pay API rates for it, using ccusage I am seeing myself "use" $150-$400 worth of fable per day. (https://www.theinformation.com/articles/tesla-caps-employee-...)
    by Computer0
  • That's funny. Sonnet is not great in my opinion. I mean, it often amazes me with its creativity, and I do prefer its style over most bigger models from other providers.

    But it also constantly just does dumb things that make me slap my forehead. Opus is a lot better but the slap ratio has not reached 0 yet. Fable seems a bit better there, more testing needed.

    But yeah, VC money ran out, now we wait for Moore's Law... :)

    --

    Re: Sonnet-ish-pricing. GLM-5.2 is cheaper than that, and appears to be "Opus-ish" in quality. I've been having a reasonably fine time with it. My experience is that it's "very solid for small and medium tasks", haven't tested it for anything bigger though.

    by andai
  • like a fent plug on Market st
    by yieldcrv
  • Anyone got any usage left to use it ?
    by asasidh
  • Meh... Waiting for OpenAI models without this 5 more days subscription bullshit.

    It looks like Anthropic baiting people into Max subscriptions before turning the model off. No thank you.

    by k9294
  • does it matter much? i find my claude code experience always downgraded from fable to opus anyway.
    by nh43215rgb
  • On July 12th they will extend it again.
    by Sevii
  • Perhaps. I don’t blame them for short horizons given capacity constraints, government mayhem, etc. Promising anything more than a week at a time seems fraught.
    by brookst
  • Anthropic: reminder that DeepSeek-V4 GA version is expected to debut on July 13 as showcase for the release of the Huawei Ascend 950dt
    by fcanesin
  • Still definitely not trying it if I'm gonna lose access on my subscription plan.

    "First hit is free", indeed.

    by kelnos
  • I knew this was going to happen. It’s just part of Dario’s hype strategy.
    by theplumber
  • Looks like we are at the end of the frontier-level models at subscription pricing. After this grace period, it will be double the cost at paid-per-token usage. I’m counting on the other models to compete at the subscription level and I need my harness to be agnostic. I need an AI harness that lets me switch LLM models dynamically depending on the task.
    by hbarka
  • > I need an AI harness that lets me switch LLM models dynamically depending on the task.

    OpenRouter put up something about this a few days ago. Check out their Advisor and Subagent docs.

    by skeledrew
  • I believe these labs really nailed the restrictions on independence for these models. I have seen collegues coding bs with fable 5. Genuinely, the skill issues is feel by the agent and the output is alike
    by isaac77
  • Hmm, so I planned to use all my allowance in 6 hours time (the time they said it would be around until) for the week and then they extend it so that I burned almost all of them in a wasteful way without having the time to review things properly.
    by dsmurrell
  • Anyone understand what the point is of only extending it for 5 days?
    by gwd
  • easier to plan/estimate compute for 5 days than for a month. worst case you only have 5 "unprofitable" days
    by rootatixww3
  • Everyone scrambling to max their usage before the deadline may have given Anthropic some valuable data on exactly how much compute they can handle. The extension could also be a play to minimize the effect of OpenAI's next move.

    Even if they grant a reset, the ball is now in OpenAI's court.

    by winterbourne
  • Let's be real: Fable 5 on API pricing is so expensive that most solo devs won't be able to use it outside of a pro or max plan. Exceptions might be individuals with highly profitable businesses or mini side projects.
    by morgengold
  • Why don't they just continue to give you Fable access but have it use quota at 4x or 8x so they at least let people on plans continue to use it, even a little?

    I'm already using it judiciously because I tried ultracode with it and it ate my 5h quota while only getting halfway through the problem.

    by zeafoamrun
  • I have a feeling they are waiting for the upcoming ChatGPT release to decide.
    by pkaye
  • I planned to use all my allowance in 6 hours time (the time they said it would be around until) for the week and then they extend it so that I burned almost all of them in a wasteful way without having the time to review things properly.
    by dsmurrell

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