Discussion summary

A biohacker seeking immortality has been diagnosed with an incurable 'stomach eating' disease, drawing mixed reactions. Some defend his intentions and efforts, while others criticize his methods and decisions.

What the discussion says

  • Support for his scientific curiosity and efforts to push health boundaries.
  • Criticism of his reckless behavior and promotion of risky practices.
  • Recognition that he has faced public mockery both before and after his diagnosis.
He’s unfathomably rich and unfathomably stupid; doing insane shit to his body.
garciasn
People mocked him long before this news broke, not just because of his diagnosis.
dpoloncsak

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Hacker News

There is nothing more valuable than doing what you believe and love in the life. Especially when doing no harm, furthermore trying to solve a great problem with great benefits for society.

Is incredible but understandable, many don´t get it.

by trilogic

He's going about this in the least scientific way, though. When n=1 and he has a million confounding variables, it reads more like fear of his own mortality than a meaningful research project. And this is a business for him now, he sells supplements through his Blueprint program.

by jmcgough

This is absolutely hilarious. lolollol .. aw life is good.

by everyone

He hired real doctors right? Not like witch doctors or faith healers or something? I wonder was there an issue of them not being able to tell the boss no, no matter how screwy his ideas were?

I know Putin is also doing a similar thing, he has a team of doctors who are supposed to keep him alive forever. But he certainly seems the sort of boss you cant disagree with or give bad news to (we can see that in how he commands the war) so maybe he will also hopefully die sooner than we think.

by everyone

> I know Putin is also doing a similar thing, he has a team of doctors who are supposed to keep him alive forever.

Oh really? have him told you so? Amazing. Did he give you more details about the treatments?

by elzbardico

Now this news is everywhere and people seem to be mocking him, but he is a good guy.

by hoppp

He’s unfathomably rich and unfathomably stupid; doing insane shit to his body and actively recommending others do the same and that’s why he’s being mocked.

“Good guy” or not, he’s paying the price for playing with fire.

by garciasn

He doesn't appear to have the stomach for immortality after all. So I believe it.

by twothreeone

Fwiw, people mocked him long before this news broke. People aren't hating on him as a result of his diagnosis, just found a new (and admittedly ironic) point to pick at.

by dpoloncsak

I completely support people who want to be guinea pigs for health science.

by Jemm

[delayed]

by copperx

I thought the article was talking about his blood donations to explain any part of how he ended up with this disease but no, he just has it (for some reason) as a result of something that happened at some point.

by LoganDark

This website is a little creepy.

by projektfu

Having a blood boy will not save you from inevitable death

by chabes

I wonder if the methods he used are any better than all sorts of incantations or ancient “cures”…a worthy goal that proved money can’t solve the ultimate disease…yet!

by theplumber

This is heartbreaking to see (from the doc about this guy, he seemed to genuinely believe this was a good idea). A good warning about the limits of control humans have over things (and why brute-forcing it can often lead to bad outcomes).

by rglover

His idea would be cool if not for the lindy effect: each one of his "tests" has a somewhat low probability of extending his life by a few months / years.

However each of his tests, as they are new, also has a smaller probability of having ruin effect: killing him or leaving him disabled in the process. Multiplying the treatments increases significantly the downside risks (1 failure is enough) while the positive will not compound (you will need many of them to work to see a significant effect).

by nemo136

It seems like a high-prevalence low-impact disease. Considering how much he self-scans it’s no surprise he found one of these. The cancers that he could get as a result are not particularly dangerous and lifespan is barely affected by it.

Seems interesting but not consequential.

by arjie

Hilariously, his self-scans did not catch this.

It's also not cancer. AIG makes him more susceptible to certain cancers, but he does not have cancer yet.

And looking at what he's done compared to the symptoms, it's possible he's been inadvertently self-medicating his condition for a bit.

He's currently blaming his lifestyle before his "biohacking" for his condition.

by bena

These people always crack me up. They don't actually want to follow the science - they just want to take a bunch of pills (easy mode) and look good.

If you really wanna live a long time you probably need to be carefully making tons of fermented food the way our grandparents did but with the advances of modern science and monitoring. And of course eat an otherwise healthy diet with moderate and varied amounts of exercise and low stress.

And of course win the genetic + luck lottery.

Doubt the guy would be having GI issues if he was eating his own homemade Natto everyday

Edit: went to the guys site and the first product he's selling is a gut health pill that makes a lot of bold claims. Bullshit meter is off the charts

by Melatonic

Someone should make a website showing the oldest living biohackers. Presenting it as a sort of leaderboard

edit: I don't actually ethically endorse this. I was moreso poking fun at the morbidity of the biohacking influencer space which invites people to obsess over an influencer's health and inevitably turns into something gruesome when said influencer has a tragic health outcome.

by culi

Honestly, great idea, hope someone interested reads this.

by pixel_popping

To add some context, this is a relatively common form of gastritis impacting depending on location 3-5% of the population called Autoimmune Gastritis. Now his biohacking might be related it might not, the issue with the guy is that he does too many interventions at the same time so it’s hard to really tell what’s going on. He also has a core belief of equating looking younger with his interventions working, to his defence he also runs more rigorous analysis on his body. Overall he isn’t the most interesting bio hacker out there, but he is the loudest.

by cannonpr

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  • Hacker News
  • There is nothing more valuable than doing what you believe and love in the life. Especially when doing no harm, furthermore trying to solve a great problem with great benefits for society.

    Is incredible but understandable, many don´t get it.

    by trilogic
  • He's going about this in the least scientific way, though. When n=1 and he has a million confounding variables, it reads more like fear of his own mortality than a meaningful research project. And this is a business for him now, he sells supplements through his Blueprint program.
    by jmcgough
  • This is absolutely hilarious. lolollol .. aw life is good.
    by everyone
  • He hired real doctors right? Not like witch doctors or faith healers or something? I wonder was there an issue of them not being able to tell the boss no, no matter how screwy his ideas were?

    I know Putin is also doing a similar thing, he has a team of doctors who are supposed to keep him alive forever. But he certainly seems the sort of boss you cant disagree with or give bad news to (we can see that in how he commands the war) so maybe he will also hopefully die sooner than we think.

    by everyone
  • > I know Putin is also doing a similar thing, he has a team of doctors who are supposed to keep him alive forever.

    Oh really? have him told you so? Amazing. Did he give you more details about the treatments?

    by elzbardico
  • Now this news is everywhere and people seem to be mocking him, but he is a good guy.
    by hoppp
  • He’s unfathomably rich and unfathomably stupid; doing insane shit to his body and actively recommending others do the same and that’s why he’s being mocked.

    “Good guy” or not, he’s paying the price for playing with fire.

    by garciasn
  • He doesn't appear to have the stomach for immortality after all. So I believe it.
    by twothreeone
  • Fwiw, people mocked him long before this news broke. People aren't hating on him as a result of his diagnosis, just found a new (and admittedly ironic) point to pick at.
    by dpoloncsak
  • I completely support people who want to be guinea pigs for health science.
    by Jemm
  • [delayed]
    by copperx
  • I thought the article was talking about his blood donations to explain any part of how he ended up with this disease but no, he just has it (for some reason) as a result of something that happened at some point.
    by LoganDark
  • This website is a little creepy.
    by projektfu
  • by ChrisArchitect
  • Having a blood boy will not save you from inevitable death
    by chabes
  • I wonder if the methods he used are any better than all sorts of incantations or ancient “cures”…a worthy goal that proved money can’t solve the ultimate disease…yet!
    by theplumber
  • This is heartbreaking to see (from the doc about this guy, he seemed to genuinely believe this was a good idea). A good warning about the limits of control humans have over things (and why brute-forcing it can often lead to bad outcomes).
    by rglover
  • His idea would be cool if not for the lindy effect: each one of his "tests" has a somewhat low probability of extending his life by a few months / years.

    However each of his tests, as they are new, also has a smaller probability of having ruin effect: killing him or leaving him disabled in the process. Multiplying the treatments increases significantly the downside risks (1 failure is enough) while the positive will not compound (you will need many of them to work to see a significant effect).

    by nemo136
  • It seems like a high-prevalence low-impact disease. Considering how much he self-scans it’s no surprise he found one of these. The cancers that he could get as a result are not particularly dangerous and lifespan is barely affected by it.

    Seems interesting but not consequential.

    by arjie
  • Hilariously, his self-scans did not catch this.

    It's also not cancer. AIG makes him more susceptible to certain cancers, but he does not have cancer yet.

    And looking at what he's done compared to the symptoms, it's possible he's been inadvertently self-medicating his condition for a bit.

    He's currently blaming his lifestyle before his "biohacking" for his condition.

    by bena
  • These people always crack me up. They don't actually want to follow the science - they just want to take a bunch of pills (easy mode) and look good.

    If you really wanna live a long time you probably need to be carefully making tons of fermented food the way our grandparents did but with the advances of modern science and monitoring. And of course eat an otherwise healthy diet with moderate and varied amounts of exercise and low stress.

    And of course win the genetic + luck lottery.

    Doubt the guy would be having GI issues if he was eating his own homemade Natto everyday

    Edit: went to the guys site and the first product he's selling is a gut health pill that makes a lot of bold claims. Bullshit meter is off the charts

    by Melatonic
  • Someone should make a website showing the oldest living biohackers. Presenting it as a sort of leaderboard

    edit: I don't actually ethically endorse this. I was moreso poking fun at the morbidity of the biohacking influencer space which invites people to obsess over an influencer's health and inevitably turns into something gruesome when said influencer has a tragic health outcome.

    by culi
  • Honestly, great idea, hope someone interested reads this.
    by pixel_popping
  • To add some context, this is a relatively common form of gastritis impacting depending on location 3-5% of the population called Autoimmune Gastritis. Now his biohacking might be related it might not, the issue with the guy is that he does too many interventions at the same time so it’s hard to really tell what’s going on. He also has a core belief of equating looking younger with his interventions working, to his defence he also runs more rigorous analysis on his body. Overall he isn’t the most interesting bio hacker out there, but he is the loudest.
    by cannonpr

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