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- Apropos, from Steven Spielberg's Ready Player One (2018) ...
Sorrento:The shareholders won't be happy.It's not our job to make them happy. It's our job to make them money, but once we launch this little baby, they're gonna flip! We call this Pure O2. This is the first of our planned upgrades. Once we can roll back some of Halliday's ad restrictions, we estimate we can sell up to 80% of an individual's visual field before inducing seizures.by danhite - Reminded me of this funny greentext: https://www.reddit.com/r/greentext/comments/1ocojql/anon_see...
- I'm quite conscious of being repetitive here, but The Truman Show is relevant again:
> Why don't you let me fix you some of this new Mococoa drink? All-natural cocoa beans from the upper slopes of Mount Nicaragua. No artificial sweeteners. I've tasted other cocoas. This is the best.
by Terr_ - > What the hell are you talking about? Who are you talking to?
One of the most dystopic, soul destroying films I've ever watched.
- I watched this movie and missed that this was mentioned. Funnily, I am from and live in Nicaragua and find it funny that we have no such land formation. I am assuming that is the point you are trying to make.by byte_0
- My wife and I routinely re-enact this in the kitchen when we've both hit our "holy shit what the fuck" maximum.by rglover
- Funny how in their front-and-centre example of placing an ad, the user wants to build a fence, ChatGPT responds with instructions on how to build a fence, but the ad suggests a small pre-made privacy panel.
Why make your fake example show a failed ad placement? You could have shown anything!
by Nition - I think at this point their poor demos are kind of a tradition.by shmeeed
- That stood out to me as well, of all the examples to use, getting a blind suggestion without any information other than "I want to build a fence" is ridiculous, who would ever want this?by autuni
- Same I was expecting to see the materials all ready to be purchased at Home Depot, that would actually be useful. One click buy all the stuff we just talked about.by jonshariat
- I'm confused. This is (publicly stated) the last resort for OpenAI, right?by arm32
- If you believe literally anything Sam Altman says, you are a fool.by skywhopper
- Didn't they do sort of a 270-degree turn on this when they abandoned erotica chatbots?
- Right - one would assume that if they're on the verge of an ASI that will consume the entire economy, advertising is only a distraction.by pants2
- I though openAI has plenty of investors/users?
Are they really that much in debt/trouble?
by bunnybomb2 - Yep. Their other ventures fell through and don't exist anymore.by himata4113
- Yes, the quote was "Ads plus AI is sort of uniquely unsettling to me. I kind of think of ads as a last resort for us for a business model." (Sam Altman, Harvard 2024)by verteu
- In case anyone is out-of-the-loop
https://youtu.be/FVRHTWWEIz4?si=btZnQp0IEnmgrtWV&t=2388
"But I kind of think of ads as like a last resort for us for a business model. I would do it if it meant that was the only way to get everybody in the world access to great services. But if we can find something that doesn't do that, I'd prefer that."
by ihumanable - Pretty bold move to release this at the peak of the Open Models vs Proprietary Models debate.
Feels like a really easy decision when it's framed this way.
by kamranjon - I’m mostly amused they dropped this after the clusterfuck that was their new desktop app. My most recent ChatGPT experience is “wait, where did all my conversations go?!”. Concurrent enshitiffication is a bold move.
- Open models still need to run somewhere. If that's not your machine, expect to pay or watch some ads.
- I suspect they're ignoring that debate since they have reason to anticipate a US Government action that allows them to not need to compete in a free market.by Someone1234
- The people who care about open versus proprietary models or even care about using good models at all aren’t using the ChatGPT free and ultra low cost tier, where these ads show up.
Any discussion about ChatGPT ads attracts all these assumptions that it’s going into your $20 or $200 per month plan, but they’re not. There’s a snarky “not yet” reply that keeps coming up from people who really want a reason to be angry about this right now regardless of the facts, but most people don’t care to get angry about something that isn’t planned and probably won’t happen.
by Aurornis - They need to show numbers for the IPO. It’s not like they plan to actually make money, just need to have a good story to tell to hype the audience before the public offeringby dgellow
- A median non-technical ChatGPT user is:
-Less likely to pay for ChatGPT use
-Will not self-host an open-source model
-Quite unlikely to use an adblocker
by vovavili - I think it kind of makes sense. Casual users won't even know about things that aren't chatgpt or gemini and they don't really need much more than gpt3 level of performance. They're also the ones who don't use adblockers and are used to ads being everywhere on the web.by IsTom
- This isn’t relevant to that debate. A billion people use the ChatGPT app without paying a dime. They don’t care what score the model gets on a hundred technical benchmarks. They don’t care if the weights are open or closed. They are definitely not hosting anything on their own. They want to ask a question and get an answer. If OpenAI can monetize that audience with ads at the level of Google then who cares about Anthropic or Deepseek?by paxys
- This is maybe not extremely on-topic, but when creating an account on their platform, their "Time zone" field is sorted in alphabetical order of CITY NAMES which are listed AFTER the timezone name and are not capitals, which is absolutely wild to me.
If the same engineers worked on this that also worked on the ad deliveries, we're about to get either the best deal per click of the century, or the worst!
Atlantic Standard Time - St Vincent Central Standard Time - Swift Current Central Standard Time - Tegucigalpa Atlantic Time - Thule Pacific Time - Tijuana Eastern Time - Toronto Atlantic Standard Time - Tortola Pacific Time - Vancouver Whitehorse Time - Whitehorse Central Time - Winnipeg Alaska Time - Yakutat - Whole platform is probably vibrator-coded, just like Claude Code is.by inigyou
- I thought these "engineers" were bragging that they aren't writing code anymore.by gspr