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The lengthy legal battle against these fines is going to be extremely interesting, especially on the Shopping/Hotels/Flights side since it is an extremely competitive market. I wonder if the lower EU court will keep its overly proactive approach despite the CJEU's reversals.

by timpera

where does the money from these fines go to? to the people affected or just gov coffers?

by warrenmiller

I hope these fines will fund NLNet.

by maelito

At this point I assume Google is just budgeting for a $1B annual tax for operating in the EU.

by granzymes

Article has no reference how exactly fine was reasoned to be specific amount. Nor specific examples of violations.

by dlahoda

I looked it up, and it seems that one issue is that Google, as a DMA gatekeeper, is supposed to provide anonymous data to other search services, but in practice, important parts of the actual data have been removed. The other issue is that competing AI services (not just Gemini) should also be allowed to run integrated app search.

Reading about it, both points seem valid to me.

by jdw64

The EU as a whole is walking a tightrope. Its largest economies still depend heavily on the US market. If the current US regime perceives that US companies are being targeted by EU "taxes", regardless of whether those laws are legitimate, there is a real danger of US retaliation.

Key sectors could take the hit, including automotive manufacturing, industrial equipment, chemicals, electronics, fashion, textiles, and luxury food and wine.

Given that these nations are already managing high debt loads while funding generous social welfare programs and expanding their defense budgets, trade sanctions could cause serious damage...

So yeah...EU is performing a delicate balancing act here.

by baridbelmedar

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  • The lengthy legal battle against these fines is going to be extremely interesting, especially on the Shopping/Hotels/Flights side since it is an extremely competitive market. I wonder if the lower EU court will keep its overly proactive approach despite the CJEU's reversals.
    by timpera
  • where does the money from these fines go to? to the people affected or just gov coffers?
    by warrenmiller
  • I hope these fines will fund NLNet.
    by maelito
  • At this point I assume Google is just budgeting for a $1B annual tax for operating in the EU.
    by granzymes
  • Article has no reference how exactly fine was reasoned to be specific amount. Nor specific examples of violations.
    by dlahoda
  • I looked it up, and it seems that one issue is that Google, as a DMA gatekeeper, is supposed to provide anonymous data to other search services, but in practice, important parts of the actual data have been removed. The other issue is that competing AI services (not just Gemini) should also be allowed to run integrated app search.

    Reading about it, both points seem valid to me.

    by jdw64
  • The EU as a whole is walking a tightrope. Its largest economies still depend heavily on the US market. If the current US regime perceives that US companies are being targeted by EU "taxes", regardless of whether those laws are legitimate, there is a real danger of US retaliation.

    Key sectors could take the hit, including automotive manufacturing, industrial equipment, chemicals, electronics, fashion, textiles, and luxury food and wine.

    Given that these nations are already managing high debt loads while funding generous social welfare programs and expanding their defense budgets, trade sanctions could cause serious damage...

    So yeah...EU is performing a delicate balancing act here.

    by baridbelmedar
  • PDFs of decisions in case somebody wants to learn more:

    Google Search decision: https://ec.europa.eu/competition/digital_markets_act/cases/2...

    Android decision: https://ec.europa.eu/competition/digital_markets_act/cases/2...

    by input_sh