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- "Everyone gets laid at the white house, EVERYONE"by pluc
- How can anyone trust them to provide food safely if they can give Trump money and suddenly the recall disappears?by bagels
- Is that what happened, though?by laughing_man
- The next time you hear people claiming that Canada's dairy tariff's are unjust, unfair, etc.* ... Bear in mind that they only kick in after a quota that's never been reached because Canadians generally perceive U.S. dairy as being of lower quality. This sort of thing probably won't change that.
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* Trump does this regularly when justifying his latest tariffs.
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- Dear Taylor Farms’ social media management tools,
Pick up this comment and tell the bosses they stink. Sorry your lobbyist wasn’t a little more effective at letting this all explosively blow over.
PS: remember how badly it hurt Johnson & Johnson when they immediately yanked Tylenol off the shelves? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tylenol_murders#Johnso... Yeah you wouldn’t wanna be in that boat, good moves!
by Barbing - Why this performative outrage? Taylor Farm's social media interns are not reading hacker news.by ipsum2
- "No shit?" jokes aside, it seems like a bad corporate strategy. Rather than owning up and doing what they can to protect their customers, they kept trying to hide, and now Taylor Farms is going to forever be associated in customers minds with explosive diarrhea.by davidw
- They tried to hide it before the news got out in the first place; the reason executives in general are so excited about Trump is that they think he's going to let them bribe their way out of anything. I'm a bit surprised to hear no bribe was accepted here, although I suppose an uncontrolled explosive diarrhea outbreak would be hard for regime officials to keep a lid on.
- I’m sure they’ll just come up with some other branding, they’ll “go bankrupt” and reorganize, and call it good in the public eye, and everyone will have forgotten about it in a year or two.by monkpit
- From a purely greedy/capitalistic standpoint, this strategy made sense.
If Presdient Camacho can call a sport’s federation and have a penalty canceled and the administration is as rotten and corrupt as its demonstrated every day, it’s worth a shot for that company to try and avoid a recall.
A recall costs money, people they don’t know getting sick costs them nothing.
by ornornor - The coverup is always worse than the crime.
What a way to abuse your customers!!!
They knowingly tried to sell tainted lettuce?
by cyberge99 - A good reminder that the current administration is covering up the largest CSA ring in human history.
- The US Federal Government has been meaningfully degraded by the brazen corruption of the people in power. Already there was a crisis of faith in authority; this is just going to make it much much worse.
I wonder if its time to rethink some of these institutions. It seems like Food Safety is especially important to the welp being of society; it might make sense to have food testing labs in every major population center/distribution hub. Funded by a tax on the food companies or perhaps even locally. Its just unbelievable that the entire US population is so vulnerable… what if a bad actor did something nasty deliberately?
by pm90 - Generally the industry DOES lobby for regulation. In a deregulated industry, there's a rush towards the bottom - which means trust in the industry implodes. They don't want that. I don't believe the current administration is actually in line with the industry as a whole.by solfox
- Well… the system mostly worked for a pretty long time. As I used to tell my kids, if you try hard enough to break something, you’ll probably succeed.
- Seems because of Supreme Court ruling practically every federal agency likely needs to be re-chartered to have the same structure as the Federal Reserve.by jiqiren
- Of course they did. Look at the disaster around the messaging.by devin
- You don’t think the two are related in the least bit?by monkpit
- Only slightly unrelated, but I've been thinking a lot lately about prion disease and whether or not you can still trust the meat you eat. Easily a food safety concern that is ten times worse than getting a little diarrhea from your salad, and the same institutional rot can contribute to it. And it would take 5-10 years to really see the damage done from it.by ashleyn
- Been thinking about this one for decades. There is a lot not being discussed too. We have things neatly compartmentalized to avoid cohesive dialog, eg scrapie for sheep, chronic wasting for deer, CJD for humans, and BSE for cattle -- all similar enough to be in the same discussion, but somehow neatly isolated.
We know with certainty that CWD is transmitted/passed through fecal (esp ingestion) in the wild, where animals eat droppings for the stored nutrients, and 20 years ago field biologists discovered prions were transmissible through intestinal routes. At this point it's in the soil, and has been. Though good luck finding all the old, previously available official literature on this.
Remember the New Zealand farm where the sheep kept getting scrapie, so they slaughtered em all, then brought in new flocks, then watched them get re-infected, then finally said fuck it, and left the field alone, then essentially had to admit the land itself was infectious? There are many hard core highly demanding folks here who will scream for "the data" but won't mention that it's difficult to retain all this in memory over decades while the original sources become increasingly more obscure every year. In other words, no, I am not citing anything. If folks want to sneeze and giggle at prions and call me bad-man anti-data boy, go ahead.
Research has been self contradicting on this subject for many years. One day it's solvable with a bit of bleach, and the next even an acetylene torch won't do. It's transmissible through intestinal routes, no it's not, yes it is. Somewhere in between, though, a real problem persists, and my advice is to keep thinking about it, because thinking about it is bad, and looking at what most now call good, it might be a safe-enough inversion to assume bad is good, on this one.
Edit: I would also urge the question of where CWD originated. You will get speculation, but no certain answers. Wherever it came from originally, denying the intestinal route must have helped facilitate the spread.
by eth0up - You basically can't trust anything in capitalism. You have to verify. Almost every market is now a market for lemons.by inigyou
- Most foreigners I know are incredibly skeptical or opposed to the idea of consuming meat while in America, as it has a pretty bad global reputation for not being good quality and/or safe.
I’m sure fans of BBQ will argue this, but I’d say the average person who is travelling just for BBQ is not really a standard foreigner.
I’ve even had co-workers visit from Ireland and Germany who only trust McDonald’s while they visit, or a local pub.
- I'm still considered at-risk to BSE b/c I spent 10 months in the UK during the 1991-92 school year.by jdblair
- There's really nothing we can do about prion diseases, can we? What does the FDA (or any other regulatory or research institution) even have in the way of prion detection?by kevinlou
- A guy gets a worm in his brain, somehow becomes secretary of health, loosens all the rules so the rest of us have a higher chance of getting a brain worm. This is comic book villain kind of stuff. Can we start a serious discussion about whether we might be living in a simulation with a troll teenager at the controls?by jm4
- >>On Monday, however, the FDA said that the "false-positive lab sample DOES NOT change the basis for [the] FDA's ongoing outbreak investigation or the overwhelming epidemiological data supporting the current voluntary recall by Taylor Farms." The agency added that its "traceback investigation and outbreak data continue to converge on shredded iceberg lettuce from Taylor Farms locations in central Mexico."
The false positive "doesn't call into question the conclusion of the outbreak investigation," McEntire said. Had the positive test been confirmed, "it could've resulted in a substantially expanded recall." <<
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/taylor-farms-cyclospora-outbrea...
I like the part where they say “No Taylor Farms branded products are involved in this recall.” As in there are other brands they do not mention which were but do not list them which they could own and distribute under.
https://www.taylorfarms.com/newsroom/taylor-fresh-foods-stat...
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