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  • recommended amount of wam
    by yapyap
  • Is this the evolution of something that used to run moderately well on a mid-range Raspberry pi?

    Don Priestley (Mazogs), stares down with a withering look.

    by linker3000
  • Wasn't that the Bedrock edition? Or "Minecraft Education Edition"? An alternative C++ version, anyway.

    I can't imagine Java Minecraft ever to have run well on a mid-range Raspi.

    by cl3misch
  • Is this 16GB for those so-called "Vibrant Visuals" or just for parity with the old version? If the latter, then what's the point of the transition to Vulkan if it quadruples resource use?
    by thrance
  • Are they cutting the default world update distance to leave more room for bling too? :)
    by nottorp
  • https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-java-editi...

    > For minimum requirements, the new target is 1080p at 30 FPS using the Fast preset. This means a 64-bit system, 8 GB of RAM with a discrete GPU or 12 GB with integrated graphics, a 4-core processor, and a Vulkan 1.3 capable GPU with at least 2 GB of VRAM.

    > For recommended requirements, the new target is 1080p at 60 FPS using the Fancy preset. This includes 16 GB of RAM, a stronger modern processor, and a more capable graphics card with 6 GB of VRAM.

    This blog post also implies that the requirements bump is due to numerous changes to Minecraft over the years, not just the change to Vulkan.

    > If you already play Java Edition without issues, you may not notice anything changing right away. If your game often struggles, the new requirements may help explain why and give you a clearer target for a smoother experience.

    by loire280
  • I remember playing back in like the 1.6.4 era on a piece of garbage from 2005 with a monstrous 1GB of ram.
    by deaton
  • 1.6.4 released in 2013.

    I'm pretty sure I had 8 GB back then, possibly 16 GB.

    I can't imagine how poorly that ran.

    by Sohcahtoa82
  • I highly recommend using the open source Sodium and Lithium mods to improve performance. And I hope you're not still using OptiFine!

    https://github.com/CaffeineMC/sodium

    https://github.com/CaffeineMC/lithium

    by surround
  • Hey, neat! Did they already ship Vulkan support?!
    by altairprime
  • I don't use OptiFine but care to explain to someone not in the loop why they should avoid OptiFine?
    by fusl
  • For reference, this is what Minecraft used to need, back around 2013[0]:

    Minimum Requirements:

    CPU : Intel P4/NetBurst Architecture or its AMD Equivalent (AMD K7)

    RAM : 2GB

    GPU : Intel GMA 950 or AMD Equivalent

    HDD : At least 90MB for Game Core and Sound Files

    Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 or up is required to be able to run the game.

    Recommended Requirements:

    CPU : Intel Pentium D or AMD Athlon 64 (K8) 2.6 GHz

    RAM : 4GB

    GPU : GeForce 6xxx or ATI Radeon 9xxx and up with OpenGL 2 Support (Excluding Integrated Chipsets)

    HDD : 150MB

    [0] https://web.archive.org/web/20130124012851/http://help.mojan...

    by theandrewbailey
  • This might have impacted me, had Microsoft not deleted my legacy account. So I suppose I'll just stick to Tekkit Classic on my pirated client.
    by functionmouse
  • I have lots of problems with Microsoft but the Minecraft transition was handled very responsibly.
    by ezfe
  • Was it really Microsoft or was it Mojang? There were two account transitions, and in my experience, most customers use Microsofts name, but are complaining about the first (Mojang, not Microsoft) transition.
    by will4274
  • Made it through the account migration. But later lost my account after some hacker compromised my microsoft account. Microsoft kindly let me know about some unauthorized access, and then promptly deleted the account :) .

    That was the last straw from Microsoft for me. Never again.

    by Nicook
  • If the new requirements are a dealbreaker for anyone, Mineclonia is a lightweight open-source alternative that runs on much weaker hardware and feels close to Minecraft.
    by dmrivers
  • I'm fascinated with how that game is almost entirely written in Lua.
    by honeycrispy
  • Often kids are playing the game and kids want to play what their friends play and that's most likely not mineclonia.

    So first I'd test mods [1] that improve performance. The best thing about java Minecraft is the modding scene.

    [1] https://modrinth.com/collection/Dtkcqkms/mods

    by mkayokay
  • Mineclonia is the 'game' that loads into Luanti (formerly Minetest). Luanti has a c++ core engine, but definition of the worlds, rules, games, interactions is all lua
    by jasonjayr
  • My 13-year old son has an absolute blast writing mods for mineclonia with Gemini. He's later e on Diablo-style randomization of weapon drops, rune combinations that cast spells and have effects. And he's even working on what he calls an MMO, but really a server with quests and groups and classes, but probably wouldn't support more than about 16 players.

    Great platform for hacking.

    by rpdillon
  • It will only cost you $200 in RAM, definitely a good time to raise the minimum/recommended specifications.
    by nesk_
  • It's only a change on paper, in reality it was unrealistically low for a long time
    by h4x0rr
  • Minecraft is not more demanding than some years ago, they didn't neceserily raise it, they just updated the info page. This snapshot from 2022 says minimum 4gb and recommend 8gb: https://archive.ph/NTMU4. Source was posted some days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49038901
    by HelloUsername
  • It's a pretty weird recommended amount of RAM too. 8GB is enough to run heavily modded Minecraft. Vanilla Minecraft can easily run on 4GB or less.
    by xboxnolifes