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I wonder if any of the three other students did use AI, but removed the Madagascar signal? So many students not proofreading suggests that they just want to make it look like they did the work but don't care about the grade, which is surprising for a midterm.
It's also a little ironic that he's showing all of this while wearing Ray-Ban Metas.
by acmnrs
I think there is a vast difference between leveraging a tool and outsourcing your cognitive functions, which is what seemed to happen in this specific case.
Are schools failing students? How do you instill a desire to learn?
I hope someone smart is trying to solve this because the ramifications on society are bleak. One anecdotal case isn't proof but it follows general trends I've seen across campuses.
by rabid_0wl
The text would have been visible once copied into the AI interface, right?
by Cider9986
“These students have no critical thinking skills!” - large group of adults on HN believing random ragebait on TikTok while applying zero critical thinking.
by paxys
Every few weeks I see a headline about a teacher catching 80%+ of their students cheating with AI. I wonder how much newsworthiness selection bias is taking place here? Out of all teachers that do this type of experiment, do 90% of them them find that most students cheat, or do we just hear about the 1% that have the biggest numbers?
by hatthew
I fear for this generation of folks that are losing the ability to think. They have a very sad existence ahead.
by cmiles8
The trap was hidden text instructing the AI to use the word “Madagascar” in a nonsensical way. The assignment was about the Industrial Revolution. “Madagascar wore a toaster to the basketball game” is an example of what a student turned in. The instructor says it was the midterm, but looks like it was more of an online discussion. Anyway, I knew cheating was bad, but this is just flagrant.
by kylenessen
I'm not disputing that students cheat using AI, and that professors catch them and enact consequences.
But this video is a little suspicious. The fact that none of the 32 students bothered to even read the generated output feels strange. Or that those students didn't notice the extremely obvious white text at the bottom of the question when copy/pasting the assignment.
Combined with a TikTok account of a person who is clearly participating in the attention economy, I am skeptical.
by mvkel
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- Hacker News
- I wonder if any of the three other students did use AI, but removed the Madagascar signal? So many students not proofreading suggests that they just want to make it look like they did the work but don't care about the grade, which is surprising for a midterm.
It's also a little ironic that he's showing all of this while wearing Ray-Ban Metas.
by acmnrs - I think there is a vast difference between leveraging a tool and outsourcing your cognitive functions, which is what seemed to happen in this specific case. Are schools failing students? How do you instill a desire to learn? I hope someone smart is trying to solve this because the ramifications on society are bleak. One anecdotal case isn't proof but it follows general trends I've seen across campuses.by rabid_0wl
- The text would have been visible once copied into the AI interface, right?by Cider9986
- “These students have no critical thinking skills!” - large group of adults on HN believing random ragebait on TikTok while applying zero critical thinking.by paxys
- Every few weeks I see a headline about a teacher catching 80%+ of their students cheating with AI. I wonder how much newsworthiness selection bias is taking place here? Out of all teachers that do this type of experiment, do 90% of them them find that most students cheat, or do we just hear about the 1% that have the biggest numbers?by hatthew
- I fear for this generation of folks that are losing the ability to think. They have a very sad existence ahead.by cmiles8
- The trap was hidden text instructing the AI to use the word “Madagascar” in a nonsensical way. The assignment was about the Industrial Revolution. “Madagascar wore a toaster to the basketball game” is an example of what a student turned in. The instructor says it was the midterm, but looks like it was more of an online discussion. Anyway, I knew cheating was bad, but this is just flagrant.by kylenessen
- I'm not disputing that students cheat using AI, and that professors catch them and enact consequences.
But this video is a little suspicious. The fact that none of the 32 students bothered to even read the generated output feels strange. Or that those students didn't notice the extremely obvious white text at the bottom of the question when copy/pasting the assignment.
Combined with a TikTok account of a person who is clearly participating in the attention economy, I am skeptical.
by mvkel