Forth

Forth

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  • Can someone explain for me?
  • Forth uses RPN so the "verb" is last.

    That is, you provide the data first (I and Forth) and the command (heart) last.

  • Forth I assume uses reverse polish notation: arguments before the operator.

    3 4 +

    for example, would return 7.

  • A different way to say the same: in forth, words get pushed on the stack, and popped from the stack by words that take arguments:

        code           stack
        I Forth love
    
        Forth love     I
    
        love           I
                       Forth
    
        ; love presumably pops
        ; subject, object args
        ; from stack - and does something 
        ; perhaps prints as side effect
    by e12e
  • FYI: Forth can be very readable!

    IT DOES NOT NEED TO BR ALL IN ONE LINE

    Most commercial forth source code is totally readable and maintainable:

    comments, newlines, macros, high level commands etc

    It's a total myth that its 'write only'. The same nonsense is spreaded by some nerds who actaully never wrote a single program in it.

    ps. same goes to COBOL. 99% of fud by guys who never even wrote a simple program in it.

  • You can't have _any_ BR all in one line.
    by psd1
  • Complaining about COBOL in 2026 feels like a joke, especially when doing AI coding and writing book sized instructions to be read by bots.
  • is it me or is forth coming up a lot lately? or am i just having a plate-o-shrimp situation?
  • It does seem like it the last few days
  • It's archaic, powerful, expressive, compact. I'd describe it as an interactive macro-assembler on steroids. What's not to like?

    But it's different. Certainly not for everyone (imho that makes it even more interesting). So yeah, shouldn't hurt the HN audience to pop by now & then.

  • I think there are phases where it becomes more popular, if some discussion topically references FORTH, or Lisp, you know that within a few hours other people will read them and make submissions on the same theme.

    It's nice.

    As for me I'll almost blindly vote up anything that references FORTH because I love implementing it. I don't use it. Few people do these days, but writing toy implementations is satisfying, for sure.

    (I do use Lisp, and within the past month posted my own lisp compiler here. A few votes and a brief bit of commentary which is about all it deserved. But I like seeing other people's approaches and I suspect that's why it got the minimal attention it did.)

  • The Forth (and Lisp) posts will continue until the entire HN population has been converted.

    I am glad that this forum that has mostly been colonized by the ‘normies’ still manages to keep these two languages in the conversation, capturing curious passersby with their exotic allure. In every post you see new prey with the comments like ‘I keep reading about Lisp and I still don’t get why it’s popular. All I see is parentheses. Can anybody explain?’

    I fear the day HN closes is the day those languages will die.

    by sph
  • Saw the same joke with Postscript many years ago.
  • I don't think anyone loves PostScript though...
  • Hey whatever happened to Factor? That was an amazingly professional offering in a weird and dusty corner of the programming languages.
  • it's somewhat alive.

    they do some releases, they have a somewhat big project of rewriting vm in zig.

  • Iがforthをloveする
    by add2
  • Forward Japanese Notation
  • Prediction: someone will make a reverse polish notation skill for interacting with claude claiming all sorts of things, like caveman, turn into another markdown as a service company, and make the news.
  • I present to you, the return-stack skill:

    https://github.com/SimHacker/moollm/tree/main/skills/return-...

    See Self's "dynamic deoptimization", where it constructs a virtual return stack on demand that you would have had, were it not for the JIT compiler's agressive inlining.

    Debugging Optimized Code with Dynamic Deoptimization, by Urs Hölzle, Craig Chambers, and David Ungar:

    https://bibliography.selflanguage.org/_static/dynamic-deopti...

    And a return-stack rotated 180 degrees around in time is an action-queue:

    https://github.com/SimHacker/moollm/tree/main/skills/action-...

    From games like The Sims:

    https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Action_queue

    Also the ever popular advertisement skill, more like comefrom than goto:

    https://github.com/SimHacker/moollm/tree/main/skills/adverti...

    Also from The Sims:

    https://simstek.fandom.com/wiki/SimAntics

    The Sims, Pie Menus, Edith Editing, and SimAntics Visual Programming Demo:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-exdu4ETscs

  • My dad proudly flew one that said FORTH <3 IF HONK THEN. Yes, people did honk.
  • My first ever programming experience was a Minecraft computer running Forth

    https://technicpack.fandom.com/wiki/Forth_language

    I built a massive mining platform that repeated a series of about 200 movements to vacuum up blocks, and used that computer block to orchestrate it.

    Must admit that I got a bit scared of programming until I tried again in university.

  • My first PID controller was in Industrial Craft & Tekkit modded Minecraft.
  • I never noticed the disclaimer at the bottom until today

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  • I would not be surprised if an easter egg exists on xkcd.com provided you satisfy these requirements.
  • FORTH LOVE? IF HONK THEN
  • Slightly OT, but nothing can beat DonHopkins’s “About” section here on HN [0].

    0: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=DonHopkins