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- I have used Telnyx for, on the opposite end of cool-ness, their fax API. Curious if their AI pricing and quality are actually competitive or if this is just a rapid pivot to try to ride the AI wave.
- By 2030 or so, it will become clear that AI's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine's.by trollbridge
- It's not a rapid pivot. We've been doing AI stuff for quite some time, particularly on the voice side. Soon, you'll see more from us on the physical AI side. Our GPUs are colocated next to our mobile core, so as we roll out vision models, you'll be able to do things like agentically pilot drones with low latency.by contactdq
- Token Type Price per 1M tokens Cached Input $0.27 Input $2.70 Output $13.50
Looks like they are first vendor to undercut in price.
by htrp - any of these providers are HIPAA compliant?by bedros
- Amazon Bedrock, but they don't have this model yetby vdfs
- At Telnyx, we are willing to enter into a BAA. Just hit up our sales team.by contactdq
- Very cool. What are your throughput and latency like?by smallerize
- Where is it hosted ?by maelito
- Atlanta, Denver, Paris, Sydney: https://developers.telnyx.com/docs/inference/models/regions
The top text says MENA as well, but the regions page doesn't mention it.
by mkl - I think telnyx is a good product, with the only stain to its name being the supply chain attack on their python library.
But I don't feel like providing inference is a professional move, it feels like out of scope for a telephony IaaS company. Feels like a FOMO moment where a reputation of years is crashed in a couple of weekends of being drawn into a fad.
And the fact that it's a chinese model doesn't quite help? I guess it's on brand with the 'cheap' pay as you go brand telnyx might already be associated to.
But more so it reads like Telnyx is trying to 'jump' into the trend of the 'open weights' discussion to compete with closed source incumbents. But we are at the tail end of the boom, anti ai sentiment is ever growing, customers now despise AI, especially in support channels, which is presumably the hook that Telnyx would have into 'AI'(LLMs). At this stage any company or individual that tries to join into the buzzword fueled cycle will pay the full fixed cost reputational price, but only reap the leftover hay from when the sun shone.
AI(LLM) on support channels is essentially a decapitalization of a company/brand, the company has a reputation that customers value, and might be worth good money in the market, and by implementing AI (LLMs) on support, a lot of costs can be cut, while the brand loses value, not sustainable. And by Telnyx (or any B2B company)asking their clients to participate in this decapitalization move, they essentially gamble their reputation as well, albeit with better odds as shovel sellers.
by TZubiri - Companies changing their scope or opening side products is not at all unusual. Microsoft is Windows, what's this Xbox thing? Google is search, why do they have email? Y Combinator is a startup accelerator, why'd they make their own Reddit?by inigyou
- Large profitable corporations with very poor customer support have existed long before AI, so why should it be different? Using AI to provide poor customer service is just an implementation detail.by jbstack
- Yeah, the pypi thing sucked, and we've taken the necessary measures to prevent something like that from happening again.
We're moving past "telephony" and focusing on building more agentic primitives at the telecom edge.
This isn't a recent jump. We've been on this path for some time.
Disagree with you on the customer support side and re: decapitalization in general. People will want to talk to competent bots. We have people literally prompting our AI agents (which are capable of doing troubleshooting) in our shared Slack channels. You simply cannot beat the speed with which they can provide a quality response.
We remain committed to delivering the highest quality product at the lowest possible price point - across all of our product lines.
by contactdq - Is it also offered via a ZDR + BAA / HIPAA eligible? Would love to use it in prodby hmokiguess
- Yes, we offer BAAs for workloads on our platform
- Why are you guys not on Openrouter? I assume you'd get way more volume that way no?
Or does openrouter have like a specific contract you have to sign with them and requirements or smth? https://openrouter.ai/moonshotai/kimi-k3#providers
by mesmertech - Who is "you guys"? Telnyx?by hmokiguess
- This (Telnyx) is available on TrustedRouter.comby ljlolel
- 10% cheaper than official! Let the inference pricing wars begin!by theredsix
- I'm really curious how far and how fast prices will drop (if at all)!by norbert515
- In my first interaction ("hi there kimi k3!"), Kimi K3 identified twice out of three times as Claude:
> Hi there! Quick note — I'm actually Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi. But no worries!
and
> Just a quick heads-up — I'm Claude, made by Anthropic, not Kimi! Kimi is a different AI assistant (made by Moonshot AI), so it looks like there might be a little mix-up.
by zius - Could be on purpose to disguise as a US made modelby croes
- The meme/trope of China copying everything really keeps playing into itselfby Razengan
- Models don't know who they are. Stop asking this question to the model as a source of truth.by w4yai
- This happens with other models too - Gemini often identifies as ChatGPT for me, confusing many a debugging attemptby nojs
- Models don't have an inherent identity. It should be obvious by now that every models trains on public AI chat session transcripts. I've seen Claude say it's Qwen.by FooBarWidget
- How many times do people need to point out that every model has this behavior until this stops being posted?by cleaning
- I remember when Claude identified as ChatGPT a long time ago. It proves nothing else than that there is a lot of training material on the internet with Claude as the AI.
- FWIW Claude sometimes identifies as DeepSeek when asked in Chinese: https://x.com/stevibe/status/2026227392076018101