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  • I have a question: what are you planning to do with it? It is curiosity. Thanks and congratulations for the work
    by h2aichat
  • I was wondering if you could add a Acid2 rendering screenshot to the site, please? It tests some different things than Acid3, so I'm curious how it fares.
    by everyos_
  • Very cool and I wish you the best of luck (I genuinely hate this generation browsers) - but my experience with bun and other complex zig tools is that a segfault always awaits behind the corner
    by jokethrowaway
  • The render of the HN page looks close at first glance, but the engine clearly does not support SVG yet - those tiny arrows are all missing. Also it renders "Hacker News" on the header garbled with overlapping texts so it seems that the text-shaping engine lacks a proper inline box model. I would also be interested in seeing renders of more modern pages.
    by zhxiaoliang
  • What's the Speedometer 3.1 [0] rating for that browser paired with an M5?

    [0]: https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.1/

    by 5555watch
  • For reference, Safari is doing around 53, and Chrome is around 60 for M5, of which they were bragging about [0]. So curious to see whether there's any gains from your custom browser.

    [0]: https://blog.google/chromium/a-double-victory-for-web-speed-...

    by 5555watch
  • Not a Show HN:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

    by TekMol
  • Your own engine?! Wow, that's incredible. Is this gonna be like Servo where people can build a browser around this, or will it be a standalone browser?

    I recently switched from Arc to Helium but it's still Chrome with different paint. When I was using Opera 12, it was the most standards-compliant browser so it became my main. What are the goals for cwbrowser (and is the name permanent)?

    by NetOpWibby
  • Congrats! Even if this is vibecoded, this is a hard task to get just a barebones renderer working.

    I do concur with the few other folks here that the ShowHN is meant for actually showcasing something rather than the landing page with a screenshot. I would expect it to link to a downloadable binary or the source.

    Showcasing Web Platform Tests coverage would be better than just Acid 3.

    For anyone else wondering why this is hard: I'm writing a browser engine that renders to png. I dug into the source code of other browser engines and came across scenarios that I had never imagined. I learnt about font rasterization, execution contexts for scripts, etc. There's a tonne of stuff to be learnt by building something like this.

    Supporting iframes and each group of the web platform APIs, each add another layer of complexity that I definitely dont want to be tackling as a solo dev.

    by SingAlong
  • And don't forget Cloudflare will just ban you from the internet if it doesn't recognise you.
    by inigyou
  • Faster than chrome and 100% clearance of acid3 is certainly interesting, and a great achievement for a solo dev, good job!

    I’d love to see something entirely FOSS dethrone the big corp browsers, hope that’s the goal here.

    by Kon5ole
  • Firefox already exists, and for all its flaws it is both free and open source.
    by everyday7732
  • Is this open source? May be being blind but cannae find the source anywhere
    by ozlikethewizard
  • Modern browsers should no longer score 100 on Acid 3 though.

    >By April 2017, the updated specifications had diverged from the test such that the latest versions of Google Chrome, Safari and Mozilla Firefox no longer pass the test as written

    by krackers
  • Aha, I'm getting 97/100 on Safari
    by 5555watch
  • hmm. i wonder if any of the stuff they have changed since then is stuff i could legitimate not do without in a browser
    by 0gs
  • Exactly. It's meaningless now and I stopped looking at it a few years before 2017 when I ran a Web dev shop
    by assimpleaspossi
  • https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/commits/master/aci... shows the history of the web-platform-tests copy of WPT, which has mostly followed Hixie’s earlier updates to Acid3 by simply commenting out assertions that no longer match what specs say.
    by gsnedders
  • Yes, but considering the goal of his project is a proof of concept, that is, proving this project is possible, acid3 is a good place to start to prove the worth of the project and aiming 100% first make more sense. Tweaks will be needed one way or another to make it equivalent to the big 3.
    by heisgone
  • Acid3 is 100 tests but to have a browser that works on any real percentage of the internet you need to pass the over 52000 tests and nearly two million subtests [1] that make up the Web Platform Tests [2]

    This is like the difference between a college degree and passing a spelling test.

    1. https://servo.org/blog/2023/07/20/servo-web-platform-tests/ 2. https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt

    Not to mention this site is clearly vibe coded and has a vague call to action and no source code available thus indicating possible vaporware.

    by timhigins
  • If you're going to "Show HN" you should show something. This just a hastily-extruded [1] landing page with no details.

    Also, using an agentic framework and writing code by hand "a lot of the time" does not count as "from scratch".

    [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49129191

    by anonymous_user9
  • It’s from scratch not by scratch
    by nsonha
  • Working with it for 2 years is impressive nevertheless.

    Working with an agentic framework for more than a week make me want to throw it over the cliff

    by j16sdiz