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  • I can't tell if this thread is real or not.

    But, uh, I have All Clad pots and pans and still like them. The bottoms warped on a couple so I replaced them with other brands.

    In general they hold up well when hand-washed.

    The handles are terrible though. Maybe it's a UX nudge to always use a pot holder?

    by jbdamask
  • Just get cast iron
    by nchmy
  • Not sure if you have a wife or not, but "just get cast iron" is something I would have said when I was single. Now, it's buy a new nonstick pan every year.
    by qwerpy
  • Why do that when steel is lighter, easier to clean, easier to maintain?
    by pretendscholar
  • Hestan >>>>>
    by c0rruptbytes
  • ...for now.
    by margalabargala
  • I’d love to see legislation prohibiting private equity from strip-mining established brands.
    by ungreased0675
  • How? It seems like any legal framework for attempting to prevent something like this would only have worse unintended effects.

    For example: every sale of a brand or a company has to go through a government committee (bribes, kickbacks, friction...). Restrictions on product changes: the new owner isn't allowed to improve the products, or stop producing older products when newer ones sell better, even if the newer ones are better. Can't shift manufacturing to China? Can't shift it out of the U.S.? How do you get such laws to apply everywhere (like Italian or French companies selling out to China)?

    The least harmful solution I can see is publicizing this B.S. and then having consumers speak with their wallets and dropping those brands.

    We've had to do that with so many brands. Aveeno used to make an oat and almond body wash that was amazing. It really helped the skin heal, feel soft, and still cleaned well. They got bought out. Boom... ammonium laurel sulfate... no oat, no almond, just fragrance, just like every other cheap body wash, and now it was bad for the skin. Same for their shave gel, same for dozens of other products.

    I don't know how we consumers stop it short of buying the product and not the brand. I'm skeptical of government being able to do anything about this phenomenon that isn't much worse overall.

    by slowmovintarget
  • I’ve noticed it’s extremely common for things to be advertised as dishwasher safe, but once you open the box, the instructions recommend hand washing.

    I’ve started doing a lot more research when buying things because of this. It seems like every pot and pan does this, not just All-Clad.

    by al_borland
  • Maybe unit is an Atlantic divide issue, but I don't know many people that put pots and pots in the dishwasher. Putting fatty pans in there is sure to ruin not just your pipes but also the internal machinery of the dishwasher, notably if it's a water saving one
    by goobatrooba
  • Stainless steel is your best bet if you want something you can put in the dishwasher consistently and not have it do anything weird.
    by bob1029
  • The former Japan license-holder for Pyrex still makes it as Iwaki
    by skhr0680
  • Ive been happy with All-Clad, but last ones I bought was horrible quality, this explains much. Brands living off their reputation, but private equity running them into the ground.
    by IronWolve
  • I will point out one counter example, Duralex still turn out top notch stuff are really great prices. They have been in trouble a few times but they keep finding a way through.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/22/french-people-...

    Also anything cast iron like Lodge and Le Creuset for example are usually going to last generations. When I used to sell them, I used the line "You are buying heirlooms not land fill".

    by ColdStream
  • After my AllClad pans have started to get the sharp edges from dishwasher corrosion of the aluminum layer, I've been switching to Hestan Nanobond. It's not exactly nonstick, but the surface is so hard and polished that things don't stick very much and you can use metal implements without scratching the pan.

    But I think AllClad has switched to sealed-rims on their pans, thus making them truly dishwasher-safe?

    by ratsbane
  • Pyrex was one of the great customer betrayals. Corning built the brand to promote a specific blend of glass with it's specific properties. Successfully enough that that blend, borosilcate glass became synonymous with the brand, Pyrex. Breaking this link to ride on the coattails of trust the brand had while selling a different blend with different properties was a dirty move.

    An interesting subject is how to differentiate borosilicate glass from tempered glass, It turns out to be surprisingly tricky, at least in a home kitchen setting. You could break it, easy but now you are can't use the dish. Color(blueish vs more clear) turns out to be a unfaithful test. There are ways to check the index of refraction(IOR) with oil, but it turns out the IOR of borosilicate and soda-lime overlap. I suspect the polarized light test to identify tempered glass stress would work, but that requires getting the polorizing filters and knowing what to look for. I sort of wish there was a requirement to stamp the formula right into the glass.

    by somat
  • This website is obviously AI generated down to the "Number Noun, Number Noun" section headers, "authored" by someone with a questionable background. I don't know why HN keeps upvoting articles from it.
    by pibaker
  • > I don't know why HN keeps upvoting articles from it.

    Do we know how many HN accounts are automated bots? Probably over half at least. And moderation doesn’t do anything about it (for example, there’s an account called cindyllm that posts random comments and gets downvoted and flagged but the account lives on). Upvotes are probably nearly automated.

    by righthand
  • I'm glad to have found this site. Though it's obviously AI-generated, the research itself is solid (I've checked).

    I'm using it to avoid enshittified brands in the future.

    by adamtaylor_13
  • For real, not sure why HN does not take seriously the fact the reporting farming accounts should be nowadays a baked in feature.

    I appreciate that it’s minimal in functionality, but times changes and slop infiltrates every single platform, HN no exception

    by konsalexee
  • > The pattern in who survived is uniform:

    Wish I had a dollar for every time I heard this construct from Claude Code.

    by LambdaComplex
  • it gives HN users a chance to share their anecdotes about cookware
    by Palomides
  • Don't worry. A flood of half-assed excuses for genuinely bad, annoying prose is being dispatched to your comment now.

    The internet is becoming a joke.

    by jchw