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- I do like integrating the shell with the agent. That seems like something I do occasionally need. But the occasion when I need it is getting rarer and rarer so I suspect that this is building a feature for 6 months ago.by arjie
- I prefer the Orca / Herdr multiplexer implementation, not a fan of this style.by hmokiguess
- Warp is bloated in recent releases. I just want an old warp, lightweight and fast. Returned to the default terminal.by qainsights
- Open source fork?by dmix
- Warp is bloatware now, has performance issuesby Pent
- I don't currently plan to use this stuff (mostly because I generally use Claude via IDE sidebars) but I still love Warp and their TOML/YAML based config which preloads my 10 tabs + tab groups on init, covering the 3 projects I work on. So I don't have to go into each dir and remember start commands every time I reboot.by dmix
- Warp eng here. Glad you like it :)by bholmesdev
- Interesting idea! I like the idea of more deeply integrating code agent with the terminal (e.g. shell, ptys, etc).
It's spawning PTYs but does it support SSH'ing into a remote session and running commands from a remote shell? That's something I built into zmx in order to scratch that "debugging in a remote VM" itch.
by qudat - I find it a bit strange that none of the mainstream harnesses have dedicated support for using an agent on another machine/VM on. I understand there is security and permissions limitations, but if I have 30 different VMs, it becomes unmanagable pretty quickly.by HDBaseT
- > a CLI coding agent that does what others can't
I've read the product description and I don't see anything that's truly unique
by agluszak - > think of our CLI agent as a built-in mux’er across agent sessions. This allows more natural interactions, like being able to switch directories in agent sessions, have the agent drive full-screen terminal commands (e.g. sqlite and mysql), and even run across ssh sessions with no remote binary install.
Looks like they let you use your LLM of choice on anything your terminal can SSH into using their TUI without having to install Claude Code or their agent on a remote system. Also, you are able to have multiple shell instances as you would on tmux in one session, all with the LLM fully aware of each one (not sure if its a model per session, or multiple, or what).
- > Cloud agent handoff > Start work in the CLI, then hand it off to the cloud when you want to close your laptop. All cloud agents are tracked centrally and can be monitored and steered via the web so you can continue work on the go.
They hype up not needing a third party binary to remote and run agents against SSH'ed systems, but how does this "cloud agent" work then? Are they shelling you through their own back-end? Because that sounds bad and probably wrong? Maybe its a different use case.
- So this is a competitor to something like OpenCode or Pi? I suspect for most developers, they are using Claude Code or Codex CLI mainly just so they don't have to pay-per-token and can use the subscription products - which I assume can't be done with Warp Agent?by daveidol
- I suspect most developers don’t care too much about cost because they’re just using what their company is just paying for whatever enterprise subscription/billing.by madeofpalk
- The codex and many other subscriptions can be used with other harnesses like OpenCode and pi. It's officially supported most of the time. Using my Codex and MiniMax sub just fine in pi.by Instantnoodl
- Warp engineer here - yes, you can use OpenCode or Pi as comparison points; our CLI has BYOK, Supergrok subscription support, or our own inference to connect to frontier / open weight.
The main reason you might try it is the shell access. We made CLI commands runnable in an agent session in the foreground, similar to our terminal agent. It means you can `cd` into different directories during the session, or run interactive commands like vim or REPLs in the session. One reason is convenience (it's nicer to cd around projects and keep the conversation going) and another is visibility (you can run a REPL in the foreground and tag in an agent to help and control that REPL). We're curious how others like working this way. It's pretty convenient.
by bholmesdev - The other day in warp I literally couldn't run `ls` because it kept interpreting it as a AI command. I still love warp, but some of the stuff is crazy.by Jonovono
- i keep getting the opposite problem:
> please implement the fix
$ please: command not found
- FWIW I use ZSH in Warp daily and never had this problem with ls. Although I have experienced the the agent prediction doing a false positive auto-switch thing a few times.by dmix
- Warp team member here. If you have natural language detection on, you can turn this off in Settings > Agents > Warp Agent > Input by disabling "Autodetect agent prompts in terminal input." Still, I wouldn't expect `ls` to be classified as an AI command... I've seen this when auto-detection is disabled and you're in an agent conversation unexpectedly. Maybe that's the case?by bholmesdev
- My absolute favorite thing about Warp is the function that suggest a new command intelligently when the one I just ran failed or changes to the code when execution failed. Haven't been able to replicate that as smoothly in Ghostty which I really want to enjoy but honestly haven't really felt the same delight I got from Warp.by ArvidSu
- I used to really like Warp, back when it was just a terminal. Then as they went more and more in on AI the actual terminal features became more and more buggy and I ended up having to go back to WezTerm.
Why is every company seemingly trying to re-implement agents themselves rather than making their product work with the existing ones?
by lexicality - > Why is every company seemingly trying to re-implement agents themselves rather than making their product work with the existing ones?
Well, i'm trying to do the later, and it is very hard to position the product and differentiate without vertical integration. When Warp owns both agent and the terminal, they can a) give terminal for free and charge on the agent, and b) lock the user in, so it is a good business but poor user experience.
on the other hand, i have to make sure every agent is working which more surface area to maintain, and i'm also limited to the common subset of features. Also it is much harder to convince folks to switch.
Lets try: I support Wezterm (and ghostty, and others) with 40+ different agents (Claude, Codex, etc) in agentastic.dev, would you give it a try?
by ahmadyan - > Why is every company seemingly trying to re-implement agents themselves rather than making their product work with the existing ones?
Why does any company do anything? Money, of course.
by dcchambers - 100% agree. I've ended up building my own [1][2] mostly because I got annoyed the agent cli's are building remote control into the agents, instead of into the terminal. I really want the agent cli's to focus on being the best autonomous agents, then let me choose a great terminal that does all the extra.
Another great option (not mine) is Orca [3] and it's a lot more mature. Really nice to use.
by turblety - Warp was so promising to begin with - super clean and polished UI, AI features that actually made sense, really good dev outreach & PR. Over time, they started cramming more and more AI in everywhere, took over half the input area and you could just see there was no coming back. This is why VC backed software will always stink in the end. I use ghostty now.by wuhhh
- > Why is every company seemingly trying to re-implement agents themselves rather than making their product work with the existing ones?
You can't raise a $50 million series b on making a nice terminal. we already have lots of nice terminals for free
by efficax - The writing was on the wall from the very start of Warp. I can't remember precisely what happened, but years ago when it was first announced there was something that required internet, or telemetry, or an account to use Warp. I noped out right there before I even tried further. It was always going to be bloatware.by yoyohello13
- I also felt this way and after staring at the 900MB app package in disbelief started tearing out features using Claude with minimal supervision over the weekend.
It was also a bit of an experiment with a larger Rust codebase, which is outside my usual areas. I did pull out powershell since this was just for personal use on macOS. Been using it today and enjoying it in place of Ghostty, but merely an experiment and learning project:
by dxmachina - Yeah I became a fan of Warp when they offered a terminal that treated the input as a normal text input field so I could use my normal keyboard text editing shortcuts.
But I understand that's not a viable business model. I'm back on iTerm2 now cause Warp isn't approved for use at my job (and never would be with all their AI pushing), and I've managed to pound iTerm 2 into something usable enough but I wish every terminal would copy Warp's text input style.
by hbn