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    First screenshot is of a phone.

    Yeah I’m never installing a coding agent on my phone.

  • Why not?

    Both codex and Claude have remote from phone. I’m personally using cli + terminal from phone.

    I’m sure I’m not the only one.

  • I frequently use openchamber on the go. It's very good at this.
  • You can also use it as a plain old chat client. I prefer it over OpenWebui because I can actually carry over my OpenCode configuration, which has specialized subagent definitions (for example, the "research" agent fires off a bunch of "web search" agents that use a cheap model to fetch and summarize, and the more capable "research" agent pulls it all together, decides if more search effort is necessary, etc.). So I can VPN into my home network and boom, self-hosted chat interface that's more capable than what you can (easily) do in OpenWebui.
  • Somehow reminds me of JetBrain's new Air [1] platform (still in beta I think) - make multiple agents working, monitoring, basic code and diff viewing.

    [1] https://air.dev/

  • This looks pretty awesome, like almost exactly what I've been hoping for. Is it possible to run the sessions on a remote server to keep tasks running? I mostly work from my laptop and it's nice to fire off tasks to a remote server (mostly been Cursor Cloud Agents lately) and close my laptop, maybe check in from the app later.
  • Yes
  • Looks nice.

    I have a number of these pieces in a binary I drop first thing on every agent computer: https://github.com/housecat-inc/scratch

    Chat to code with an inspector to point at specific DOM sections, review diffs on the box, hand off to mobile, etc.

    Makes me wonder where all this will end up. Or DIY win with hyper-personalized tools? Will one vendor become the center of gravity similar to VSCode in previous generation? Will there be a cottage industry of more opinionated tools?

  • It's funny / ironic how the whole agentic development boom has taken off in terminal environments, but now the orchestration / IDE layer seems to be all Electron / GUI apps.

    Any suggestions for terminal UI versions of something like this?

  • It feels a bit like herdr which is like tmux meets agent management
  • There is hardly any terminal environments when doing SaaS, iPaaS.

    Thankfully most of them can be proper Web with my already installed browser, or IDE based.

    VSCode plugins get a discount, because I cannot avoid it in some cases.

  • It's nice but I get such memory leaks that I have to reboot my bacbook after a few hours of using it. Sticking to opencode gui for now.
  • This field is super crowded, but we are still working on our own ADE called Podium and think we have something unique.

    Features we are proud of are one click onboarding of new VPSs into the agent fleet. Agent orchestration across different machines and harnesses. As an example, a Codex coordinator on one machine can run a Grok implementer subagent on another machine and they can talk to each other.

    It's not really ready for public consumption yet, but it's been our exclusive daily driver for the past month. We'd be happy for people to test drive it and provide feeback regardless: https://github.com/madeinorbit/podium

    by mgw
  • Seems like another clone of Conductor, though this one has a serious amount of feature creep (supporting so many platforms will add a ton of extra complexity), and on OpenCode SDK only.

    As a simpler desktop-only multi-platform option, I can highly recommend Termic (https://github.com/simion/termic). It just runs existing TUI coding agents (so Codex, Claude Code, OpenCode, etc) and manages them in sandboxed git worktrees. You get a real PTY to manage agent in, lets you see when one is working or has paused, plus a terminal, "changed git files", even in-line-code comments you can feed back to the agent. It's a good design, works well, the main dev is working very quickly on improvements, and they're responsive to issues and PRs.

  • I wonder what JetBrains is doing. They had such a strong lead, but with the rise of AI, they seem to be heading down the same path as Stack Overflow.
  • They are doing fine for us in Java, .NET and C++ land.
  • Yes, I haven't heard as much about them lately as I had in the 2022-23 era.
  • I let my Pycharm sub lapse since I switched to VSCode. Its lighter and better at some static analysis.
  • I use IntelliJ at my current gig—and the CoPilot plugin for AI, because it’s what I have access to—and it has become ClaudeCode-esque of late: sub-agents, skills, tool-calling, hooks…and continues to improve. It’s unfortunate how the AI-in-a-sidebar UI kind of hides how sophisticated it has grown, but it’s a glass of ice water in hell in an environment where you can’t easily procure what you want.
    by pohl
  • They have the Air and it's quite nic for agentic coding.
  • Same thing. I've been using JetBrains IDEs for 25 years, and by now the keyboard shortcuts are hardwired into my fingers.

    They fumbled the initial rollout with the way they gate-kept the agents behind their own subscription. I used Claude through its API pricing for a while, and the UI experience with the sidebar chat was so much better than the Claude CLI.

    I could see the thought stream, click on artifacts, view diffs, etc. But it burned through tokens way too quickly, so I downgraded to the CLI agent.

    At least I can use IDEA's inspections through the MCP server. It enables the agent to use the IDEA's index for navigation (finding usages, locating symbols, etc.)

  • I've been paying JetBrains in a personal capacity for about 15 years. Almost from the first year of my professional career. I didn't renew this year. I feel so sad and disheartened that a company that produced such brilliant tools have completely lost the plot on AI. They had started work on Fleet, a lightweight VSCode like IDE, before LLMs became big, but abandoned the effort without seeing it through. It could've been a great agentic IDE (all I want is whole file+project view for every conversation, instead of just diff so I can have a better perspective of the codebase). Instead they built multiple confusing tools (might be internal org structure and competition leaking out), and took far too long to adopt SOTA CLI coding agents, and kept charging for it as a separate subscription. I wish they do a whole company rethink on agentic development, but it is going to be tough because the existing enterprise licenses will continue to be the main revenue driver for a few more years, until it all dries up all at once.
  • I'm using Orca recently for both coding and as a terminal and like it a lot, seems this is very similar, just tied to a single harness?
  • Huge fan of Orca. Been using it for a month. Plan to setup a proper remote env this week.
  • Orca is my main ADE too, but I haven't found any other users!

    What do you when done with a work tree? Just delete? I wish there was a middle ground of hiding it from the main panel, but keeping it for a week or so just in case I need to refer to something in the transcript...

  • Had to scroll all the way to the bottom to see that its a wrapper for OpenCode.

    This actual functionality should be more explicitly stated, and should be described much sooner IMO.

  • on the scroll note, the top background had a seizure while i was scrolling down
  • I prefer Paseo https://github.com/getpaseo/paseo, mainly because I have specific preferences for different harness + model combinations. For example, I like using ChatGPT models via pi, and GLM via Claude Code.

    If you’re happy with OpenCode as the harness, OpenChamber is great. But if you prefer using different harnesses under the hood, Paseo is a better fit.

    I installed it on my homelab and can access the same sessions from my MacBook or iPhone at any time. Been really nice to use so far.

  • what is the goal of these tools, having a hard timeunderstanding the value vs just running them on terminal
  • +1 for paseo. Switched yesterday and it’s a dream how flexible and clean it is.