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  • I feel like we'd be better off if we just stopped at chatbots...why are we so eager to make the internet even more botted
    by dylanhouli
  • IDK, it's the same problem I had with OpenClaw: I can't think of anything I need done that I want it to do for me.
    by bandrami
  • The problem these model providers have now is there software is basically useless.

    Tell me one reason why I would use this at my company? I basically have to bet on Grok being the best models for this.

    Or I can use an open source version and use whatever model I want.

    You see this with coding agents, everyone used Claude Code and then realized holy shit this is expensive and now use open source agents and they can use open source models and cut costs.

    by impulser_
  • The eternal fight between bots and anti-bot systems.

    The difference now is that big companies themselves promote/offer bots, but they also don't like to be scraped and use captchas.

    What do we do now? Is it allowed to use automated tools to interact with any system? Is it allowed to scrape data? Are there any laws for this?

    If we do things manually it is ok, but not if we use a bot?

    Confusing (legal) times...

    by XCSme
  • We need more and stronger open source/weight models considering how deeply and intimately these bots are going to be integrated in our lives.

    I hope that Dario Amodei fails in his quest to regulate open models out of existence to line his pocket under the guise of safety. Amodei/anthropic will end up being the most harmful force in the next few decades where progress in AI is concerned.

    I hope people realize sooner than later that this is a replay of early Microsoft vs open source situation and Amodei is the new Gates on a crusade against open source/Linux.

    by agnosticmantis
  • The scariest part of the interaction is the first video at https://x.ai/bot where the bot just snags your creds from the browser and takes over. So many people are going to give x all their data and creds.
    by anthonyskipper
  • Are you all comfortable with the idea of agents running non stop with access to all your accounts? I would be so anxious all the time, thinking they would leak or delete my personal data, or get hijacked via prompt injection or a security vulnerability. I just cannot imagine using such a software without overview
    by dgellow
  • I've been using it for the last month or so. IMO in the same way we went from tab complete -> prompts -> agents, this feels like a next step on that evolution. I highly suspect others will be following suit. I was surprised with how much it felt natural to interact with agents in this way.

    Biggest advantage is each one owns its own routines, context, and domain, and they can communicate between each other. Similar to hermes they build out their own skills, but by keeping the bots separated by domains, you end up getting better results out of them.

    Additionally though each one has their own computer, which means async work feels like it actually works. I haven't had to juggle worktrees for the last month.

    Biggest downsides are token expenditure. I've used more tokens this month than not this month. That's not a typo - I've used less tokens in the last 5 years prior to this month than I have this month. Always on perpetual agents use a LOT of tokens. IMO this is building for the future state where tokens are vastly cheaper, ie in a post-ASIC world.

    The coolest thing I had it do for me was sourcing fabric for swag: https://image.non.io/d83664c1-5807-4a18-abe4-41928c198410.we...

    I wanted to make something that didn't feel like just my logo on a shirt, so I had one of my bots reach out to ~40 fabric suppliers in vietnam, negotiate prices, lock one in, and get samples made. First samples should be finished today. It's been something I've wanted to do for ages, so it was cool seeing it actually happen. The fabric supplier bot worked with one of my prototyper bots to create a randomly generated pattern using my logo, which it then sent as a .ai file to the supplier.

    by jjcm

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