Grok 4.6

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• Thats actually a lot more impressive than I thought. At least on paper
  by Pungsnigel
• But has it hacked anybody yet? Feels like xAi is behind on the hot new benchmarking meta.
  by combobyte
• >Grok 4.6 produces stronger first passes on visual and interactive projects than we typically saw with Grok 4.5. Given a concrete product idea, it is able to establish structure and visual language for an application in one pass.

  As a designer, I'm always hesitant to believe these statements until there's independent comparisons between the old & new model, as well as comparisons to human made flows. Design can be so subjective that blanket statements like this seem almost useless.

  by GenerWork
• A relatively frequent pattern for AI announcements is "it's now really good at X", almost always said by someone who is not an expert in X.
  by Planktonne
• (I work on Grok) We've been working on teaching the model how to reason about great visual design principles. Obviously this is hard and somewhat subjective, but through a combination of writing down these principles (e.g. how to think about systems, not just "use this italic serif font on marketing pages"), and then creating a lot of data to pairwise compare designs/outputs, we've made a notable improvement over G4.5 and see a path to improving much further in the next model.
  by leerob
• Grok 4.5 was the first time I considered giving me $100/mo to xai (currently on just SuperGrok). It’s just a very pleasant model to work with: fast, to the point, intelligent. It’s also much better in UI compared to gpt. Not as good as Claude but close!

  I didn’t expect we get 4.6 so soon and the increased limits to try it out are neat!

  by artdigital
• Does really well and ~2x cheaper than Qwen3.8 2.4T, they have same pricing but grok is around 2x more token efficient:

  https://aibenchy.com/compare/qwen-qwen3-8-2-4t-a95b-low/x-ai...

  by XCSme
• Grok 4.6 vs Sol 5.6 vs Opus 5:

  https://aibenchy.com/compare/openai-gpt-5-6-sol-low/x-ai-gro...

  by XCSme
• Cursor blog: https://cursor.com/blog/grok-4-6
  by meetpateltech
• I'm a bit confused by the Cursor relationship here, the acquisition hasn't closed yet, what are they doing with Composer?
  by dbbk
• I'd let the dust settle rather than trusting benchmarks. But in general a third competitive frontier model would be great.

  I still think that it's very possible Gemini gets its act together and becomes the true competitor to the existing frontier models (on more than just cost). But they sure are taking their time with this one, and recent org changes don't exactly signal confidence

  by at1as
• I will say this: Grok Build has a very nice TUI! It even has... mouse rollovers/tooltips?? I was like whoa.

  I used Grok 4.5 for a security review the other day and it did a FANTASTIC job. I mean it thoroughly ROUTED my app's security, identifying attack surfaces I'd never even considered, and I LOVED it! (Guess why I had to use Grok to do the security review in the first place?!?!)

  I'd suggest trying it out with something like that first, if you haven't used it before.

  by pmarreck
• i found this with 4.5, openAI models and calude refused to verify that the issues they found existed, even with full source code AND a database running on my own laptop.

  grok however found the same issues, tested to make sure it was exploitable and proposed a fix.

  by vorticalbox
• Yeah I've been sorting of amazed how polished Grok build is. It's also super fast (written in Rust).
  by martinald
• The one thing that keeps me in codex is that Claude and grok have done all of this work to make the cli tools feel like windows application with mouse etc… I want to scroll back with my terminal history not inside a window within my terminal….
  by taf2
• > mouse rollovers/tooltips?? I was like whoa

  We're reinventing the wheel we tried to avoid in the first place.

  by w4yai
• Fable-like intelligence, beats GPT-5.6-Sol on most benchmarks, cheaper than Kimi K3 on API and quite generous usage on Cursor subscription.
  by cjalmeida
• And doesn't embed a watermark
  by tiahura
• I like Grok, but I don't think that it's quite Fable-tier. It's good, but I think the position that it occupies on the Pareto frontier is a little more toward the "cheap" side and a little less toward the "intelligence" side.
  by throw10920
• In my tests Grok 4.5 is definitely not Opus level. It is somewhere in between Sonnet and Opus, I'd say maybe a bit closer to Sonnet.

  We'll see with 4.6.

  by jorl17
• I'm thinking of switching to Grok on Cursor (purely for $$ reasons). But Opus >= 4.8 has been fantastic; it's hard to leave, even just to dabble with other models.
  by nomilk
• As polarizing as grok is, it was basically inevitable for it to start being a real competitor given how much investment SpaceX made into its own inference capabilities.

  Seems if you are okay with it, there's no reason to use anything but the highest effort levels of some other frontier models for the price.

  I think Grok provides healthy competition to the other labs, though I do think they bank on groks reputation making it less appealing to many.

  by Jcampuzano2
• more competition is always good
  by tonyhart7
• Is it inevitable? Still waiting for (also massively invested) Google or Meta competitors at Fable/Opus/Sol levels.
  by glaslong
• Curious - what is the main issue you find polarizing with grok?
  by hackernan9000
• I can't bring myself to even try it. The guy did a salute on stage then spent billions of dollars on a mission to root out brown people who "didn't deserve" the position they were in. I feel gross just accidentally clicking links to x.
  by sixothree
• I use both Grok 4.5 and Opus 5. They’re both very good and Grok is faster and cheaper.
  by rayiner
• In terms of using experience, I found Grok 4.5 to be way more pleasant to use than GPT 5.6 Sol and Claude 4.8/5. It just gets to the point, and is super fast and concise, no yapping. That's how AI agents should be imo. None of the weird "Claude ipsum" jargon like "load-bearing" and "stale folklore" or GPT 5.6-isms like "focused regression" and "provenance".
  by dllu
• What harness are you using?
  by christophilus
• GPT doesn't yap at all
  by timcobb