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- Wouldn't such language and reasoning from Anthropic be an argument that they needed written permission to train their model on data from websites?
Has any individual somewhere around the world tested this in court by now? Sued Anthropic for copyright infringement because Claude can reproduce information that is only available on their website?
It shouldn't be that expensive, right? If you sue them for - say - $10000 then what would the costs of such a court case be?
Personally, I think "learning" is not a copyright violation. But if they themselves make it one, then they should also face the consequences, no?
by TekMol - Apart from the usual hypocrisy,
> Safety controls may be lost – models trained on Claude's Outputs won't have our safety measures, potentially leading to harmful or dangerous AI systems. We also have no visibility into deployment, meaning we cannot monitor how these distilled models are used or prevent misuse.
So was that why your models caused three real-world security incidents?
by lifthrasiir - So can you write GPL content using Claude? MIT? Because if this condition applies to the output, I don't see how it's compatible with FOSS.by moomin
- Corollary: If you can't use the output to train, then you don't own them.by lelanthran
- I was not asked for permission when they trained their model on my output.by nicbou
- They stole all the data, and then dont want you to steal it back. Its basically Robin Hood all over again.by shikck200
- I have released some of my projects as Open Source, I also have a company with privative software.
Claude and AI partners have taken all what they could from the Open Source projects without giving credit or respecting the licenses. They have increased the traffic on websites in an absolute disrespectful way increasing the hosting cost in inefficient and ridiculous ways.
They have taken all the important books and not asked permission from the authors.
Fair enough. Fair use.
Of course I would create a competitor software to Claude or any others if I could. Using Claude(and others) of course.
I am not paying you 200 dollars/month for you to tell me that I could not create code that competes with you. If you try to go to court in Europe with this you will lose.
It is just the same fair use you proclaim for taking the data from others.
by cladopa - > When customers use Claude to generate Outputs that then train competing models, they're essentially using our infrastructure and investment to build direct competitors to our service
We did so, please do not repeat it at home.
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