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  • Living in a post-factual world.
    by kleiba2
  • That's no moon
    by ndsipa_pomu
  • Great, the sun has moon craters now. GenAI at its best.
    by classified
  • the title should be "lies, damn lies, and photo enhancements"
    by mugiseyebrows
  • I got some amazing photos through a set of eclipse viewing glasses on my Vivo x300 pro. If I'd been a bit more organized and set up a stand and taped the glasses onto the phone I think I could have taken a video of the whole thing in incredible quality. But I just held the glasses in front of the lens and it worked.

    What I found though was that I had to use the pro mode (which I use for basically everything anyway, to avoid exactly the kind of issues this article is talking about).

    I did try on normal photo mode and I think what was happening was that as soon as I covered one lens with the glasses it switched to another.

    by esperent
  • It remains incredibly funny that they never turned off this "fake moon" feature after being caught the first time
    by swiftcoder
  • Because nobody cares. We live in a post-truth era.
    by inigyou
  • they will probably just add a condition into code to temporary disable it during eclipses
    by mugiseyebrows
  • nobody forces you to keep AI Camera switched on, I disable it as one of the first things when opening camera on Xiaomi phone first time, just swipe up from top and tap on AI Camera and you are done, I don't speak French so would be really interested how was their Xiaomi phone set, but I would bet my money they had AI Camera (and possible also Super Moon) enabled
    by Markoff
  • I think you're confusing them with samsung who was caught in 2023 for this

    https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/13/23637401/samsung-fake-moo...

    by thehamkercat
  • I wonder if it gets the moon the right way up in the southern hemisphere
    by Taniwha
  • i would not underestimate the tomfoolery Xiaomi is doing to give the impression their phone can take a zoomed in photo of the moon. It's pretty tasteless in my opinion
    by yokoprime
  • I still struggle with the idea that the chinese olympics had both CGI fireworks and real firework footage mixed together.

    I cant fathom how this was a "if they know it doesnt matter at all" situation.

    A complete acceptance of real / fake, who cares its about stuff looking great.

    I mean I can be told it but I cant understand why you would waste millions on real works just to have fake ones, why not just go all fake? If its a half way house then does no one care what is real?

    IE on linkedin somany AI videos with thousands of comments and likes and I become lost on ... do most poeple just not care if its real or not? I dont think they do at all. Am I mad to care?

    Its very easy to say well everyone uses filters and they are not real. And its true! But somewhere and I have no idea where, there seems tobe a line for me where I say no, thats not cricket, you cant just replace part of an image with a template of something else. I have no idea tho any thoughts appreciated.

    by ionwake
  • IMO this is old man yelling at clouds mindset, which is fine, but losing battle. Asia went HAM on face filters day one and never turned it off, aesthetics > reality, and that mindet always existed in west but gaining mindshare in new gens. It's just produced art/content at the end of the day, I would say even before if you're not editing raw you're not trying, but now editing is included.
    by maxglute
  • real for onsite viewers

    enhanced with fake for rest of the world

    I don't like it either

    by Markoff
  • Usa World Cup half time show was also CGI
    by profstasiak
  • Does it come from a cultural mindset, or are people from China just as confused?
    by xattt
  • > why not just go all fake?

    Perhaps they needed some real fireworks for those there in person, and to be able to claim that there really was a fireworks show, but wanted to amp it up for those viewing the event virtually (most of the world).

    by Smoosh
  • > I mean I can be told it but I cant understand why you would waste millions on real works just to have fake ones, why not just go all fake? If its a half way house then does no one care what is real?

    I work with VFX and try to always have something real in the shot. Explosions and the like are easier to expand but quite difficult to just add to empty shot. Fireworks are a bit easier but there is interplay with the environment which is hard to fake.

    All these films where they announce ”we did it for real with practical effects” usually mean that it’s a mix and match between practical and computer generated effects. It can look better than either on their own.

    Also I guess they had audience there so you need something for them as well.

    by plastic3169
  • Interestingly, one of their AI filters is actually called "Super Moon":

    4.14.3 Camera Image Optimization

    The camera image optimization AI algorithm is mainly used in the following camera features: Super Moon, AI Camera, Document Mode, Front Portrait Mode with Background Blurring, and Beautify.

    https://trust.mi.com/docs/miui-privacy-white-paper-global/4/...

    by Alexander-Barth
  • In the future, it might be extremely hard to find a camera which records exactly what is in front of it :D
    by IvanK_net
  • I am wondering if the AI enhancement should be opt-in rather than the default and saving the original as well. Even if you want AI enhancement, future models are likely to be better.
    by Alexander-Barth
  • It’s a legit possibility that “FaceTime” in the future will be super low bandwidth because the phones on each end do local animations of a deepfaked/skinned model to match live capture rather than transmit high resolution video.
    by whycome
  • pretty sure even Xiaomi can do it, just disable stupid AI Camera and/or Super Moon, one of the first things I disable in camera on all Xiaomi phones (wife and me both have Xiaomi 13t and 13 respectively), don't forget also to disable Beautify (switch to Original) for selfie camera and don't remember what is the default selfie mirroring setting, this is very common issue with all brands they are not displaying real sides in selfie photos (real right hand becomes in photo left hand)
    by Markoff
  • With the rise of AI-generated content I would actually love a camera with no post-processing by default and a watermarking system that proves the picture is authentic. I can see Apple going that way eventually.
    by Zealotux
  • A lot of smartphones support raw format.

    It's fascinating to see how much post-processing gets done.

    by BlackRabbit1
  • The year is 2036, when dialed up to maximum space saving, the latest generation of smart phones now turn camera pictures to a textual description and later when you want to view them, re-generate them on the fly using a text2image model. Not that "saving space" really means something, the phones refuse to unlock if they don't have an internet connection and store all your data on multiple cloud servers anyway (one for each five eye country).
    by st_goliath