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  • What the article and some of the comments are missing is one of the reasons behind applying the penalties. The prevention.

    Chatbots, no matter how much autonomy of action they possess, can’t die, or spend the majority of their life in prison, or lose their wealth, or face social ostracism for their action, and thus punishing them is pointless for preventing further crimes or dissuading others.

    Sometimes what’s important isn’t what feels just, but what, with certain limitations, creates a safer and more responsible society.

    The end-user behind the bot is the easiest to reach, and the easiest to prove their involvement, intention or lack if thereof, and thus should be judged

    by DiskoHexyl
  • If your answer is “you”, then it follows that OpenAI should face felony CFAA charges for the Hugging Face intrusion. Right?
    by teeray
  • If you're using a car to commit a crime we blame the driver not the car.

    When there's a gun shooting we don't blame the gun we blame the user.

    People commit crimes. They might use a computer, a baseball bat or a hammer. We don't hold the computer, baseball bat or hammer responsible.

    by johannesrexx
  • Most comments here point to the owner of operator of the LLM. I tend to agree. But on the other hand, if you drive on the highway and the steering wheel falls off and your car glides to the left and his an oncoming car, it can be argued that it is true producer of the car, or the mechanic who didn't tighten the bolts...
    by heikkilevanto
  • I find it obvious that if a person allowed an agent to do things on behalf of themselves or their company (e.g. send emails, sign contracts, update websites, etc.), they are responsible for the results.
    by ventana
  • If a dog bites someone, does the dog pay the medical bills or the owner? This is why you keep your dog on a leash and get liability insurance. I feel like this is already settled case law.
    by fhdkweig
  • I forget the name of the document. But, the US military has a declaration that boils down to "When something goes wrong, blame cannot be shrugged off onto a machine. Somewhere in the chain of responsibility a human will be held accountable." Maybe the operator, the commanding officer, the vendor, maybe even all the way back to a software engineer. But, everyone can't hide behind the machine.
    by corysama
  • Depends. If you’re a large company, it’s okay.

    If you’re a random person, straight to jail.

    by az226

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