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we have reached the point where now at any point in the future they can trace anyone backwards for months without a warrant (and without probable cause)
they can pick a person and then just look for a crime to prosecute since most people break laws daily without realizing it
by ck2 - Nah, they won't prosecute for a crime. People accused of crimes have these pesky things called rights.
They'll find some civil infraction to threaten you with. You'll be cast into a kangaroo system where the deck is stacked against you, you have no presumption of innocence, no right to not self incriminate, you have nearly no right to see let alone question the evidince against you. And of course the civil infraction will have some absurd dollar figure attached thanks to all the useful idiots who think that the fine "needs to be a deterrent".
- Friendly reminder many manufactured goods also have RFID stickers within, used to track/trace parts during factory assembly. These are active and readable at all times by systems like this - irrespective of if the devices are powered.by 4d4m
- ha my shoes have RFid tags for stock tracking, I wonder how far away that can be read
even most watches people have now broadcast bluetooth MAC (and maybe ANT+ id)
and that data is never ever going away, there's no warrant and no law to regulate it
they still have tracking data for everyone who visited Epstein Island decades ago (which is even more crazy that no-one was prosecuted out of hundreds)
by ck2 - its fun when you shuffle these stickers around...by rolph
- Are passive RFID tags actually trackable for these purposes? That's horrifying. But I thought they would only be readable from at most a meter, maybe several with sensitive equipment - far too short of a range, no?by tavavex
- So do all four tires on your car: https://dspace.networks.imdea.org/bitstream/handle/20.500.12...by Lammy
- Torment Nexus looms ever closer.by N_Lens
- Sad, isn’t it? I saw this coming many years ago, as I’m sure many of you did. We create so much metadata in our lives, both physically and digitally evident, that our past and future behaviors can be observed at a level of detail only previously imagined in dystopian fiction.
We learned about the government’s domestic surveillance programs from Snowden over 13 years ago.
About ten years ago, I learned about fiber optic and WiFi sensing techniques that would make the hair stand up on the back of most people’s necks.
14 years ago, stories were written about a pregnant teen whose parents were sent coupons from Target for baby items, because Target had automatically marked the girl as pregnant because of her shopping habits.
Computers, vehicles, and software that we pay for have so many built in tracking mechanisms that I think circumventing them would make you more of a surveillance target at this point than not.
I know people try to rationalize the whole “I said something near my phone and Facebook gave me ad impressions for it” as simply the algorithm finding a strong signal in your browsing data, but I’m fully convinced that Meta apps are listening on iOS, even with the screen locked.
Those who enable these sorts of things should feel shame. You’d have to be a complete asshole to do this stuff to fellow humans just for money.
- Malls and stores have done this for a decade and then some, from devices on you.by cluckindan
- wow. is it legal to capture and process such data?by iberator