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- Since it's only discounted on the standard "OpenAI," non-ZDR route (old pricing on Azure), I'm guessing a lot of users won't see this benefit? Since a lot of users enable a global "ZDR-only" toggle on ORby claiir
- It would seem that getting lots of data is exactly the reason to discount this.by stavros
- At this point the models are “good enough” and whoever wins long term is gonna be whoever is the cheapest.
That’s why Chinese models are gaining traction and it’ll be the only way for OpenAI or Anthropic to keep up.
- Price wars did wonders for many businesses, like the bike sharing industry in China.
Overgrown datacenters or mounds of GPUs dumped into the harbour next ?
by m4rtink - Well one person can use at most one bicycle at a time.
One person can use as many GPUs as they want.
by vatsachak - Mountains of GPUs next to the ET games in the landfill.
- I would happily buy up a load of datacenter GPU's at deep discountby skohan
- I would in such a scenario expect the GPUs to be dumped to industrial breakers who would send them to China for refurbishment and repackaging before being sold again on Amazon, AliExpress, and Taobao as last gen gaming cards from weird brands and specs.
This is what happened after the great crypto GPU dumping.
by Moto7451 - Where is the official source for this?
OpenAI's docs still show non-discounted pricing https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-5.6-sol
by resonious - It's discounted if used via OpenRouter, not the official API.by mirzap
- If they can cut the price of Sol by 50% and the price of Luna by 80%, then the original price might have carried a massive operating margin. They might still be serving the models at a profit after these price cuts, but we will never know.by z_rho_one
- Or they have gotten new asics and can do now inference way cheaperby kolinko
- I'm pretty sure tokens are priced to maximize revenue, not inference profit.
- I always find it funny that Japanese pensioners are probably subsidizing my tokens.by josu
- OpenAI didn't cut the price of Sol by 50% like they did with Luna's 80%. Sol was unchanged. This is just a limited promo for OpenRouter non-BYOK.by wahnfrieden
- I don’t think there’s a real answer for this. Margin depends on whatever number the accounting department wants to make up.
Do you include research and training costs? Of all models or only the ones being served? What percent of the R&D budget do you allocate to inference? What about data center capacity? Do you count future commitments? All the circular financing deals? Do you count employee equity grants as costs? At what valuation?
by paxys - I have switched to Chagpt sub now after only using Claude for coding. You get more value for your money and feels like codex has reached Claude code performance in coding (the reason for using Claude) regular plus account allows you to have access to their most powerful model, image generation and asking questions is better because you can use sol but in instant mode and it feels smarter and faster. And finally codex usage limits are better than the Claude daily 5h limit. And codex feels faster although Claude code had more featuresby kelvinjps10
- > codex has reached Claude code performance in coding
Codex has always beaten claude in coding benchmarks, hasn't it?
by andypants - I switched as I felt Codex was on a par with Opus, but the chat responses from Sol are just more intelligible than the word soup I've been getting from Opus. I wonder if Opus could be prompted to respond in simpler prose via agents.mdby gb2d_hn
- I used over a billion tokens per day of gpt-5.6 sol xhigh starting last Wednesday through Sunday before reaching my reset limit. The $200 pro plan is still the best deal.by CompoundEyes
- I can’t sign up for that. I tried authorizing Codex a couple days ago. For some reason, their system says my phone number has been used for verification 3 times even though it definitely has not. I’ve had this phone number for over 20 years. OpenAI support is useless. They just keep repeating the policy without actually helping me.by jm4
- A billion tokens per day?? Plausible estimates put the energy use at about 0.001 Wh/token, which means you're using 1000 kWh/day in electricity, just to generate slop. That's about the same as 50-100 houses. 300kg of CO2 per day - roughly the same as flying from London to New York every three days.
I think on average AI energy usage is not as big a deal as everyone is panicking about, but your usage is truly absurd and I don't know how you can live with that. It's immoral.
by IshKebab - I am also on the pro $200 plan, the limit is high enough to do what I want for a week, and binge run Ultra Fast last day to use the remaining credits.by XCSme
- I’m exclusively using ultra and I run out in 3-4 days consistently. Those resets are great but I’ve noticed they like to cluster them at the start of the cycle, would be better if they spaced them out more.by dyauspitr
- I have mine churning like butter and I'm rarely hitting a billion tokens per day, what's your workflow look like?
- A billion a day? How many agents are you running?by SJMG
- I spent $800 in a few hours when my sub maxed out because I was trying to get something done and had a long car ride to let it churn.
Their api pricing is absurdly expensive.
by ec109685 - The title looks to be misleading, since this price cut is limited to OpenRouter. It does not apply for the native OpenAI price listed at https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-5.6-solby OutOfHere
- OpenRouter and the Vercel AI Gateway.
So yes, presumably a very small share of their total traffic.
by user43928 - Right? Should we switch from direct OpenAI API integration to OpenRouter?
What's the incentive here?
Open Responses API doesn't appear to support state management (yet)
by matchagaucho