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  • I only buy Motorola's for their folded design, used ones from eBay are 200 eurobucks and look cool.

    I guess another 5 years to wait for a legit open one, but hej, I'm waiting since a1200e.

    by Muromec
  • eurobucks is an abomination of a word what are you doing sur
    by jftkrjti
  • Hopefully it will come to the razr line
    by qwertytyyuu
  • > Supporting a flip device with vertical folding would be a new form factor for GrapheneOS. The main use case for those is a tiny phone to use with one hand in the folded form factor.

    So, I've been using flip phones now exclusively since the Samsung Z-Flip3 (and will never go back to slab phones unless the flip segment disappears), but I almost never use the outer screen. Maybe that is just me, but I have a feeling it's pretty common.

    by moogly
  • This is great, I'll hopefully get one as my next phone when my Pixel 7 Pro dies.
    by hankbond
  • Yup. My last one took a rather quick end when a tiny bit of salty splash water got under the screen.. IP rating is only when it's fresh off production. Oh well, still a great phone (thanks to GrapheneOS)
    by _blk
  • I hope they try to bring Graphene OS to Motorola's mid-range devices, like the Moto G.
    by terribleperson
  • But how are they going stuff them chokeful of intrusive bloatware then?
    by notabotiswear
  • This is not the Motorola (USA) that many of us knew for ages. That company doesn't exist any more.

    The company working with GrapheneOS appears to be Motorola Mobility, owned by Lenovo (China).

    by foresto
  • Well thankfully, because the original one was hopeless in shipping good mobile phones
    by raverbashing
  • I got my first smartphone 14 years ago. It was a Samsung. It landed in trash after one year. Since then I've been on Motorolas because they're the only smartphones that tick these boxes:

    - SD card slot

    - audio jack

    - cheap

    - no shitty custom UI filled with ads and slowness

    by anal_reactor
  • The original Motorola exists as Motorola Solutions in USA. Mobility was spun-off.
    by abhinavk
  • > Motorola Mobility, owned by Lenovo (China).

    Praise be the lord for Chinese Motorola Mobility if so, because they were the ones who launched and shipped the Motorola Moto G phone which was probably the best cheap Android phone available that could fit into my hand properly, until the 5th/6th generation, when I had to move away from them as they too became too large.

    Hope they go back to their (Chinese) roots shortly and launch more "normal sized" phones again, if they'll be able to run GrapheneOS as well that'd be a huge plus obviously :)

    by embedding-shape
  • $950 Signature (was not sold in US.)

    https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Signature-Dual-SIM-Unlocked-...

    https://www.motorola.com/gb/en/p/phones/motorola-signature/s...

    $1900 Fold

    https://www.motorola.com/us/en/p/phones/razr/motorola-razr-f...

    $1500 Ultra

    https://www.motorola.com/us/en/p/phones/razr/razr-ultra-2026...

    by Cider9986
  • 2025 ultra is almost the same spec as 2026, and it's like $600.
    by esalman
  • The question is whether the new gen Snapdragon Elite SoCs will finally support non-protected KVM? That would make native "linux terminal" (which has GUI support) work.. so far Qualcomm is the only flagship vendor that doesn't support it. And this feature currently works with pixels, hopefully it doesn't stop working with Motorola Signature.
    by zb3
  • I think the feature we all want in light of this is a simple backup+restore which uses a users SSHD server somewhere so you can wipe completely before travelling and then restore completely when safe again.

    Would obviously want it to also backup/restore esim's...

    by purpleidea
  • I think that is hard to do securely - wiping the phone implies wiping the keys from secure storage, and those cannot be restored by design.
    by ulrikrasmussen
  • I'll take a complicated backup+restore. I haven't been able to back up my apps since I had a Nexus.
    by Dylan16807
  • Actually the main thing I want is to be able to use my phone however I like, and install whatever I want, without Google telling me whether I have their permission to do so or not.
    by jbstack
  • For me the reason why this is a big deal is because, before there was any Motorola upcoming Graphene-compatible model, most people that might be installing Graphene would not trust Google with their phone software, to then go ahead and install Graphene in Google's hardware! A bit of a contradiction there.
    by siwatanejo
  • This is a relief to hear.

    Also this is great unless Motorola is comprimised.

        Motorola is doing a large portion of the work of porting GrapheneOS to their devices. They'll provide us with what we need for firmware/drivers in the form we need it and it will be far easier than Pixels. We'll be able to get issues in the firmware and drivers fixed through Motorola and Qualcomm.
    by noman-land
  • Qualcomm makes a good SoC, but the low effort software stack from ODMs do not showcase most differentiating capabilities. This might be net positive for Qualcomm. However, they will for sure fail to recognise that may just start a litigation against graphene OS.
    by bip-bop-robot
  • A non-folder with a stylus option, an audio jack, microSD card slot and USB-C 3.2+ would be swell. In other words... a beefed-up update of the 2026 Motorola Moto G Stylus [1]. ;)

    1. [https://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_stylus_(2026)-14581...]

    by spankibalt
  • Looking forward to the years we we start having some usb4. Or usb4 v2, why not, full 120gbit please.
    by jauntywundrkind
  • Not having big rounded corners would be nice and practical.
    by dekdrop
  • Or a folder with a stylus. I'd like that even better.
    by vdbijl
  • Would be nice, although the thread makes it look unlikely for now; they say the flagship processors have security features they require. I've got a 2023 stylus 5G... Never use the stylus, but it was the most reasonable phone with a headphone jack, enough ram, and a qualcomm cpu. Of course, the three year update period from release ended in June, so I've got to find something new soon to stay updated. :(
    by toast0
  • I was planning to make my next phone a Moto G Stylus. If they do a Graphene one, it'll be certain.

    My partner got the Moto G Stylus 2025 after we swore off Samsung last year. I've been very impressed. Other then the camera software, it's a very capable phone, and the headphone port and SD card slot are great. There's 90 gigabytes of lossless music on an SD card now. The camera software sucks, but thanks to a tip I think I heard here on HN, I installed a gcam (Google pixel camera) port and that's great.

    by terribleperson