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  • Finally, a periodic table of labs
  • Fwiw, ElevenLabs doesn't even make any sense as a firm, considering its TTS offering is extremely overpriced by an absurdly large factor. A large user would be far better off using local models. Even the OpenAI TTS is cheaper. There is no moat here such as with hardware.
  • The moat is marketing and good looking UI. They have been spamming Tik Tok et al. relentlessly and every lazy opportunist algorithm exploiter out there knows who they are, what they do, and that they can easily generate enough slop per cost to make their money back. So yeah, not a moat, but you're kinda missing the point. Just like Lovable is wildly over-priced, under powered, and has crazy levels of lock in built in (you can't even access your own supabase account that it uses for backend). It's not for you / us. Its for the masses who don't know (or want to know) any better.
  • 11labs does _way_ more than basic TTS. The options, customizability, quality of voice cloning (for editing your own voices), etc is far more than what you see on the surface.

    Check out their docs for a glimpse: https://elevenlabs.io/docs/api-reference/introduction

    If you wanna hook up a voice agent to Twilio for support for example, 11labs is probably one of the quickest and least painful ways to integrate while still maintaining control over your agent and behaviors.

    Yes you can vibe code your own glue code, but try that in a large enterprise where you have to consider your team now taking on perpetual maintenance; and not having a vendor/SLA to just send tickets to when something breaks (or you want something new).

  • I own http://34labs.com since forever :D (a homage to the Spanish phone prefix)
  • Missed the best name! https://1337labs.org/

    (I'm not affiliated with this company and know nothing about it)

  • I run a reverse engineering collective that is called 52 Labs: https://52-1ab.github.io/.

    > 52 1ab (Pronounced 52 Lab) is a Software Research group dedicated to interoperabilty research in India. It is named after the Section 52(1) (ab) of The Copyright Act which states:

    >> The following act shall not constitute an infringement of copyright:

    >> the doing of any act necessary to obtain information essential for operating inter-operability of an independently created computer programme with other programmes by a lawful possessor of a computer programme provided that such information is not otherwise readily available.

  • What I’m seeing is there are 29 available startup names just waiting…
  • kennywinkerlabs
  • Yeah! 50 labs is still available. I know what I’m getting myself for my 50th birthday!
  • After that we’ll have to expand to 3 digits, which will open the possibility of naming your company after hip area codes.
  • Tried to register sixsevenlabs, too late unfortunately...
  • SixSevenLabs btw seems really cringe, see https://www.67lab.ai/catalog/clawnexus
  • All of them copied 15.ai

    ElevenLabs was a commercial version of 15.ai. It's crazy, because 15.ai could have had the venture-scale outcomes if he'd fundraised and turned it into a SaaS product. He was in the right place, right time, with tremendous attention, but missed the opportunity.

    The other "labs" followed the trend. The {number}labs / {number}.ai domains all quickly got squatted.

    I was in the same space and watched it happening. I launched FakeYou about the same time as 15.ai, but 15 had the backing of 4chan and a better model. I still made it to 7M MAU and a million in revenue despite that.

    Just last year, Fish Audio picked up where 15.ai / FakeYou / UberDuck / Weights.gg left off and made it to $20M ARR, which is a lesson about abandoning under-served markets when you still have tremendous gravity.

  • https://www.twelvelabs.io/blog/introducing-the-multimodal-ai...

    > Twelve Labs and ElevenLabs are co-hosting the 23Labs Hackathon

  • I was confused why I was already on the list... this is from 2023.
  • Author here. Very surprised to see this here - my poor web server wasn't built for this! It's back up for now.
  • Such a funny concept. So well done. Thanks for making it.
  • Could Wayback Machine your articles just in case! Maybe downsides idk
  • https://41labs.ai/

    I think this is the most obviously AI designed website I have ever seen.

    From the nonsensical logo, the bland generic design language, overlapping support chats to mix and match of different landing page patterns. Misaligned avatar circles.

  • Why is every single thing on this page... throbbing.
  • I agree with the rest, but that's a fantastic logo.
    by idk1
  • Huh. The reply time keeps updating between 0.8s and 1.2s, but is always "98% faster than manual", which is basically saying "We reply twice as fast", but in a really weird way. I'd fully expect a "2x faster" framing instead. And the reply time updates, but the recent activity does not... Even though everything is written to look like its updating live.

    Weird.

  • I think the logo is pretty nifty actually. It's both "41" and "AI"
  • I work on https://elevenmusic.io (full disclosure), so I just had to check:

      onemusic.com.au
      twomusic.it
      3music.tv
      fourmusic.com
      5music.com.tw
      bbc.co.uk/6music
      seven-music.com
      (8 appears to be vacant?)
      ninemusic.net
      tenmusic.in
  • Naturally most of the 67/six seven ones are taken too, but are just being squatted on.

    I'm disappointed that sixseven.ai is not joining the Gen-Z brainrot revolution.

    by ljm
  • is there onetwothreeFOURfivesixseveneightNINEteneleventwelvemusic.in [1]?

    [1] - https://youtu.be/rqSq3qTjFd8

  • Close but not exact, and not defunct https://blog.8tracks.com/
  • 44Music not taken? Common time signature seems obvious...