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- The media is trying to manufacturer consent for a deeply unpopular war of choice that has already been lost. That's so weird. Why would Iran do this? They've already won.
Nothing will change the fact that this war has been a complete strategic defeat for the US and its allies. This is the beginning of the end of dismantling the world order created by the US for the benefit of the US after 1945. That's how this will be written about in history books.
by jmyeet - Did iran win? Their economy is on the brink of collapse with no relief in sight, and countries are investing in infrastructure to bypass the strait.
And sure oil prices have gone up, but not doomsday scenario prices.
A bit of a pyrrhic victory if you insist on defining that as a victory.
Sometimes everyone's a loser.
by mupuff1234 - What goes around, comes around. What was the name of the SCADA hack dropped via USB drives in Iranian parking lots which brought down their centrifuges?
Stuxnet.
- The timing of this seems weird. The UK uses much more energy in the winter, so this isn't going to bring the grid down or anything.
This just seems like a wasted attack, alerting us to the vulnerability.
by benj111 - I run a power grid. We have our own fiber optic network, run on the towers. 100% air gapped. No working from home. No IOT. Nothing fancy. SCADA control center staffed 24/7. If I want to know something I call them. This is the only way.
- Let me guess, SCADA system is somehow accessible from outside.by pjmlp
- It is either the fact most major infrastructure in the UK seems to be run on computer systems introduced by a man with no knowledge and struggles to turn on a computer. Or it is the start of a UK government attempt to reduce freedoms by stating look there are naughty terrorists out there that will do harm to the UK if we don't restrict programs and usage of systems.
I imagine the former, but it will be used for the latter.
by ktallett - Both can be true at the same time.by logotype
- Why would a power plant system be exposed to internet in the first place
- To enable work from home?by Gys
- There are plenty of reports that this happens and at least as of a couple years ago wasn't even that uncommon. Including CCC talks. People want to do remote maintenance, and apparently not everyone has a good enough internal IT to put this traffic on a VPNby wongarsu
- DRM license verificationby seydor
- Because power plants need to coordinate to serve the grid, and there is currently a single Interconnected Network of computers out there. Would it be a good idea to create a secondary network for power control and similar critical functions, completely isolated from the internet and from any outside countries? Perhaps - but it doesn't even seem to be on the horizon for now.by tsimionescu
- Anything from the Telegraph should be treated as suspect and an alternative source should be found.by donohoe
- This point cannot be overstated - famously the Torygraph for its stance should always have been treated with a degree of scepticism under former editors but such journalistic standards it ever had are now long and completely defunct. A rubbish-laden agitprop comic.by guiriduro
- The BBC reported on it many many hours ago at the same time [1] with the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero confirming there was an incident.by zipy124
- If I were an incompetent manager that need to oversee crumble infrastructure, I'd like to blame my problems on evil hackers from the other side of the world.
This story does not look real.
by neves - In what way does it not look real? On the contrary a significant portion of the population seems to be totally swooned by Iranian propaganda and is not aware they are a malicious actor and have been for decades conducting much worse things on foreign soil than hacksby edgyquant
- Coming soon:
* Iran caused fall of German manufacturing
* Iranian investors caused housing shortage in Netherlands
* Iranians are pushing French to protest against pension age reforms
by throwaw12 - Iran caused Game of Thrones season 8by Razengan
- Soon ? They already did it. Together with <insert unfriendly country here>by hulitu
- That reads like a scare story for MPs so they approve more money to some dodgy outfit that will save us all from the ever growing axis of evil...again.by CrzyLngPwd
- You know Iran itself refers its own side as the axis right?by zerozerotwo
- Those same MPs decided, for example, that it should be mandatory for EV chargers to be internet connected.
They could do with a dose of reality, IMHO.
by michaelt - This is greatly downplaying the hacking that has been made public, hasn’t been made public, and is continuously ongoing. Water treatment plants just publicly got hit in Canada and USA.
The simple truth right now is that China, Iran, and North Korea, are actively hacking out companies and infrastructure. It’s a sort of Cold War.
by goalieca