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  • terrible. pretty sure all major intelligence agencies do this to some degree
  • Some degree? They're all criminals and therefore all of them do this.
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar

    Too many examples from US, Israel, Russia

  • Sounds like some of Trump's people are double-dipping Uncle Sam and the Ayatollah.
  • The Israeli government has openly and publicly stated they will spread false information and propaganda directly through social media etc, which they heavily control all throughout the west, and have directly threatened western politicians that don't support their (often false) rhetoric, along with themselves conducting terrorist activities outside their own borders.

    I'm frankly quite tired of hearing about how terrible the Iranians are (and they are), because the people they are fighting are arguably worse. Iran are a threat to the middle east, but they're fighting nations that are actively a threat to the entire planet.

  • Lol the pro zionist accounts are arriving it seems.
  • How are the Israeli and US governments a threat to the entire planet and (arguably) worse than a authoritarian fundamentalist religious regime? If Iran gets a nuke are they more or less likely to use it than the Israelis?

    Does Israel heavily control social media throughout the West?

    Multiple foreign governments are ruining influence operations. We should be talking about the effects that has on our public sphere, and the existence of Israeli influence operations doesn't mean we handwave away Iranian influence.

  • Reminds me of a recent story about a Norwegian teenager who traveled to the UK to perform a hitman job for the Foxtrot Network, a Swedish organized crime group linked to Iran. The teenager received instructions from someone called "Agent 47."

    EDIT: Article for reference, https://archive.ph/xNSr2.

  • Can you give me the original link? I know all about archive dot ph.
  • Iran has nothing on Israel when it comes to interfering with other nations. This is simply propaganda and missing the elephant in the room (on purpose of course).
  • >Iran has nothing on Israel when it comes to interfering with other nations. This is simply propaganda and missing the elephant in the room (on purpose of course).

    I'm so tired of this geopolitical whataboutism.

    Once at tech policy happy hour, someone got in my face and demanded I affirm that Israel has a right to exist.

    They recoiled as if they'd been physically struck when I shot back "Israel has a right to exist and not do war crimes... just like Saudi Arabia".

    (I don't give a fuck if you have dip-lo-mat-ic imm-un-itt-y. I've slapped the soul out of someone in Farragut Square before, and as I sit here looking at the data, I've concluded I'll probably do it again, don't you ever put your fucking hands on me.)

    There is no reason to treat the leaders of Israel any different than the leaders of countries like UAE, Qatar, etc.

    (And if it was up to me, we'd send all these fascist motherfuckers on a free trip to The Hague.)

  • I've never heard of Israel trying to kill overseas critics? As opposed to terrorists who try to kill Israelies.
  • No matter how absurd the situation becomes, no matter how engaging the videos are, we should never be fooled into thinking Iran are the good guys. This is an unfortunate, ill-conceived war, but that doesn't clean Iran's hands.
  • Iran are the bad guys. Israel are the worse guys.
  • You have been fooling yourself for decades that you're the good guys.

    But you're not. No amount of mental gymnastics can help at this point to justify all the evil things USA does around the globe because of greed and lust for dominance.

  • Well then you're doing the work of the same people that killed an entire school of little girls in an unprovoked attack. Nothing Iran has done comes close to what the Zionists have done in Iran and many other countries.
  • You destroyed their country on a basis of Israel's messianic ambitions and your voracious capitalists infinite greed. This is the truth.

    And now you are blabbering about "good/bad guys"..

    You are just totally nuts, and your place is on the same bench where nazi officials sat after 1945.

  • >"This is an unfortunate, ill-conceived war" - yeah, like we went in and killed some people. Oopsy but that's ok cause we're the good guys. Your logic stinks disregarding how bad the other side is.
  • Iran may be the originators of good/evil duality but that doesn't mean we should follow their lead.

    Anyway Iran are good enough when we want, we fought alongside them in Afghanistan after 9/11 and against ISIS. Their oil was good enough to (let BP) take 80% of it for 30 years.

  • > No matter how absurd the situation becomes, no matter how engaging the videos are, we should never be fooled into thinking Iran are the good guys.

    I don't think there are many people who believe "Iran are the good guys."

    Lots of people do understand that bombing civilian infrastructure, killing innocent civilians, and taking actions that were inevitably going to lead Iran to respond with the goal of inflicting widespread economic damage has in many ways actually helped and emboldened the Iranian regime.

    This wasn't just "unfortunate" and "ill-conceived". It was stupid and arguably criminal.