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    Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31572258 - May 2022 (236 comments)

    by dang
  • One thing I find odd about the rules: it forces you to respect what you've learned via green or yellow tiles, but not gray tiles. The spirit of the rules suggests once you've learned a letter is not in the word, you shouldn't be able to reuse that letter. Perhaps that would simply make the game too difficult, though.
  • Isn't that rule 3?
  • It does - you can type them but it rejects the word when you submit it.

    I think this DOES make it way harder than regular wordle.

  • It didn't let me guess things that had already been eliminated with gray tiles.
  • Like it, but would love a "No Undo" option, or at least, "don't force undo".

    My friends and I share our wordle results daily. Would like to add this, but so that if you guess in three or four tries, that's OK, that's just your score for the day. Right now game forces me to undo if I have reduced option space to fewer words than there are remaining guesses, and that's quite annoying for how we'd want to play :)

  • In the same vein, last year I took on a good old fashioned optimization problem for Worlde. Given a guess list and answer list, find all of the “perfectly bad” Worlde games in the shortest time. This means never reusing letters or finding any of the letters in the word. I got it from over 35 hours down to a mere 20 seconds.

    Results and code here: https://github.com/SMarioMan/worst-wordle

  • Some of the suggested plays for yellow EA and green H after the first guess:

        ALMEH
        BEKAH
        BELAH
        DEASH
        OBEAH
        SELAH
    
    Not much fun to play with a dictionary like this :-/
  • And yet it didn’t accept JORTS :/
  • Well this sure makes Wordle feel a lot easier!
  • and I still can't believe it took me more than 3 guesses
  • Nice. I play Last Word daily.

    https://dragonfjord.com/lastword/

    It's the same goal, but everyone starts with the same word each day, which does not include any letters in the "last word".

    No undos in Last Word. My average is 8.7 letters. Really hoping to get it to 9.

  • Of course the one time I get it in 2 guesses is in this version
  • What the hell, same here. My initial guess was "CELLO", from there on I had 32 other possible words and somehow I got the right one?
  • My first guess got 3green+2gray. Should have undone immediately.
    by zaik
  • Got to the sixth attempt, 2 words remaining, of course I picked the right one.
  • We are asked to allow hundreds of cookies, not just a few, to play the game.
  • yes top of hacker news and loaded with tracking information and a popular game so likely to garner lots of attention
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  • Proof that regulation does not work.
  • Ublock seems to work with this one.
  • No reject all button means a closed tab.
    by thi2
  • Only hundreds? I ended up on Thingiverse by accident yesterday it’s

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  • 12935 -> TIZZY (5625) -> OXBOW (2674) -> GRUFF (858) -> MAMMA (195) and I'll let you guess the rest but my next choice left 43 words, and I survived with only 4 words possible.

    The rules not letting use a letter you know isn't in the target word drastically cuts your choices, your best bet is to use as few unique letters per word as you can, and as uncommon letters as you can, but as all normal words need vowels you'll be forced into only picking a vowel from the target word soon enough. Try to find letters that are in the word as late as possible so you're not locked into having to use them.

    Once you are forced to use letters from the target word, avoid placing them in the right place. Sadly there's a rule not letting you use a known letter more than once in a word (once A is known, you can't write ALPHA), and a rule for not letting you put a known letter in a place you know it doesn't go (so after MAMMA, you can't have HALVE because you know there's not an A in second place, nor ALPHA because you know there's not an A in fifth place).

  • > Sadly there's a rule not letting you use a known letter more than once in a word (once A is known, you can't write ALPHA),

    That rule doesn't make sense.

    What if the answer is AORTA, and you want to guess ALBUM and then ALPHA?

  • The best I could do with today's word, and the wordlist, but no scoring function to minmax the rules:

    - FUFFY (8159) (shipping of Faith and Buffy from Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

    - IMMIX (4544) (to mix or blend)

    - ZOCCO (2142) (low plinth, from the Italian word for sock)

    - QAJAQ (530) (alternative form of kayak)

    - TRATT (155) (clipping of trattoria)

    - KHAPH (7) (alternative form of khaf, the 11th letter of the Hebrew alphabet)

    I get the feeling that if this game had 7 steps instead of 6, it would almost always be impossible.

  • > Sadly there's a rule not letting you use a known letter more than once in a word (once A is known, you can't write ALPHA)

    This is not entirely correct (or at least it's worded a bit weirdly).

    If you know that A goes in a certain place you can still try a word using A more than once. It's only once you know that A does not appear twice (because you tried a word containing A twice, and the second A way gray!) then you can no longer use A twice.

    In your case you tried MAMMA which contained 2 As and the second one gave you the information that there's no second A.