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- Why didn't they used any Chinese open models?by __coder__
- They very likely also do thatby dgellow
- How many user do the Chinese open models have and how many users do OpenAI have?by edu
- How do you know they didn't?by stavros
- Maybe they were not as good at the time, or the contractor just used to use ChatGPT. Also ChatGPT can be used without a phone number registration, unlike Chinese models.by codedokode
- unfortunatly it appears to me that Russia has gone from doing good service providing a reasonable counter narative to the US/west, has become lazy and resorted to promoting convienient irrational and extreamist naratives present at the fringes of western societies, but worse for them and us, is that they are now consuming the excess product and activly meddling, not that our various 3 and 4 letter agencys are refraing from operating there, but it's all tedious and evil mean spirited, lacking any identifiable moral or cultural basis, just a dirty fight for power on both sides.by metalman
- Even as a speaker of the language I haven't a single bloody clue what a "hazzy" is. Is ChatGPT normally this bad at being prompted in one language to generate text in another, or is this an operator fuckup, I wonder?by andOlga
- mixing languages results in huge hallucination increase from my experience
- Could it be "hazy", which is supposed to mean "cloudy"? The word "cloudy" is often used in Russian for "unclear", "vague", for example, one could say: "Western countries are awaiting a cloudy perspectives due to discarding traditional values".
You can notice one more example of original language leak in the quote from a report ("And she needs politicians...") where Germany is referred to as "she", because in Russian "Germany", as many other countries, has a female gender, so we call it "she", not "it". In English I usually see people using "it" for countries.
by codedokode - Most of the Russians I've met while traveling were really good guys. I distrust our government, the EU, UK, Canada and especially Israel. Seems we treat each other like garbage on this planet for made up reasons. The US and EU are as much bad actors as any other superpower. Probably not as evil as Israel but then again the Israelis have their hand up all of our politicians arses like sock puppets. Let Russia cook everybody come to dinner and talk about how to get Israel to stop meddling in other countries affairs and finances and we might be able to make progress in space, AI, wth ever.by thmryth
- Without knowing who you are your comment has no value. On whoee behalf are you posting? Where are you from? China?by karp773
- We recently banned a cluster of ChatGPT accounts originating in Russia
We banned a cluster of ChatGPT accounts that very likely originated in Russia.
Methinks AI helped write this. Although…their evidence is pretty damning.
by jimbob45 - Seems pretty normal to me. Your first sentence is taken from the abstract, a short summary of the article as a whole, so details are excluded or glossed over. Your second sentence is from a section titled "Actor", which goes into actual detail on who the actors were and so has more fluff like this. They go on to explain their reasoning in that section -- you can't actually create an account from Russia itself, but a VPN can be used to bypass the block, which lends some uncertainty. They then proceed to systematically eliminate that uncertainty by showing how the accounts were acting.by andOlga
- People would be uncomfortable if the truth about how much influence nation-states have in the online discourse nowadays was really exposed. I don't mean only bots, but how many political influencers are receiving money from adversaries, from all over the spectrum, without they even knowing who is paying them. American people would feel like LATAM countries, which are used to be heavily influenced by external countries.by tuesdaynight
- Do not use US based AI, OpenAI, or Ben Nimmo (highly likely the author of this article) or any similar minion of The Digital Forensic Research Lab (DFRLab) of the Atlantic Council of the NATO could read all your chat history and leverage all the data on you up to your social media accounts and foreign state data.
Securing Our Autonomy: How AI Fuels Cognitive Warfare – and How We Can Fight Back
https://youtu.be/jH2i0Y9GjJc?t=1273
https://youtu.be/jH2i0Y9GjJc?t=2536
https://youtu.be/jH2i0Y9GjJc?t=2880
OpenAI's China Report, Meta Trains America & the Pentagon BlacklistSo the question then becomes how can these technologies be leveraged in such a way to be able to maximize signal intelligence, communication intelligence with human intelligence. And this is where AI really began to play a role with regard to big data. The more data you have about individuals as those individuals relate and engage in their collectives and ecologies, the more you know about them, what makes them tick. We here in the United States and among our technological and scientific allies recognize the benefit of this as do our international peer competitors scientifically, technologically, bioeconomically, economically, and certainly militarily, and geopolitically. this idea of precision engagement with regard to being able to get intel about various human targets individually and collectively. Either high priority targets as individuals or groups that may be highly prioritized as individuals. What are their needs? What are their likes? What are their patterns? What are their spends? What are their vulnerabilities? Biocschosocial vulnerabilities and how can those be not only accessed utilizing big data and AI but accessed in the cognitive space but very often in the physical space as well. - the National Defense University dude sitting next to the author of this article.by secondary_op - Does it seem strange that Russia would go with Israel to astroturf credibility?by hackernud3s
- It depends on who your target audience is.by venzaspa
- If you want to understand Israel - think of it as Eastern European country that is geographically misplaced. Kremlin knows how to pass convincingly as them. And Israel is a wedge issue.
In psyops - discord is the goal.
by ReptileMan - No?
Russia had a random news paper in India put up an article linking AIDS to the CIA, and then over years converted that into a constellation of articles and commentary that even reached the UN.
Russia looks at disinformation the same way someone looks at configuring a server. What can be seeded where, at what cost and for what outcome.
by intended - Evangelical Christians are the target audience. They are strong supporters of Israel because of their interpretation of the bible.by villish
- No, Israel has maintained relations with the Kremlin and has refused to impose sanctions against them, as well as rejected calls to send military aid to Ukraine.by edu
- I couldn't help laughing a little at all those Russian phrases weirdly translated into English. Granted I probably sound like that too... at least I don't work for any intelligence service.
For the context: I think, English was the most commonly taught foreign language in the Soviet Union, and later in Russia. But, because nobody had access to the genuine English media, whatever we had to read or listen to was produced by Russian speakers who also never heard or never read genuine English, well, perhaps outside of very outdated prose from the 19th century or even earlier.
The joke from that time, but, apparently, little has changed.-- How much watch? -- Six watch. -- Such much?! -- For whom how... -- MGIMO finished? -- A-a-a-ask!by crabbone - >Our mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity.
Pull the other one. It's got bells on.
by GolfPopper - We should be tracking and identifying all covert influence campaigns, from all states - not just Russia - and collecting a registry of these efforts for wide public distribution.
We should also be tracking and identifying all covert influence campaigns of our own government, too, while we’re at it.
In fact, all covert influence, everywhere, should be identified and made overt.
It is the covert nature of the influence that is the most insidious aspect, incompatible with free and open society.
So yeah, let’s start at home by disassembling the national security apparatus which allows covert influence to be wielded against The People. After all, anything less than full exposure is hypocrisy.
More leaks now!
Perhaps there will be an application of LLM’s towards identifying covert influence, which we can apply to a corpus and identify its true authorship. This would be pretty useful for a lot of things, eh ..
by MomsAVoxell - Why just covert?
There are proper overt examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Libert...
Russia is just the current boogeyman, where you can call anything you don't like "russian propaganda" (like fighting for workers rights in US a few decades ago was just "commies", same for trying to stop the war in vietnam... "commies" everywhere).
by ajsnigrutin - I’m wondering if this doesn’t exist already. I know that there is no intelligence clearing house that enables sharing between platforms, vendors and OSINT groups.
I think the issue is that there is no funding or incentive to collate this information?
by intended - > We should be tracking and identifying all covert influence campaigns, from all states - not just Russia - and collecting a registry of these efforts for wide public distribution.
Close to nothing happened after Snowden leaks. The republican party has been able to convince pretty much everybody that the Mueller report was a hoax, a report that very explicitly found collusion between Russia and US operatives close to Trump, so bad that his own guys went to prison. The 2nd trump admin destroyed the cyber monitoring apparatus and might have let Russian hackers access citizens data.
I don’t think there is anything to be expected from the US at this point.
by dgellow - i think a lot of people don't realize how far not just nation-states are willing to go, but bajillionaire entities are willing to go to control any given narrative now that AI is so accessible. ig comments, tiktok comments, reddit comments, hn comments, on seemingly innocuous and harmless content, just out there trying to look real and game the perception. these entities are well aware that people go to comments and discussion for "the real tea" and yeah. marketing behemoths offer "social media engagement" packages to entities like disney to push trailer hype. flood youtube and other socials with fake content engagement. i remember within the first like minute disney dropped the latest tron trailer on youtube, it was absolutely flooded with "i'm not ready" "omggggg" caliber comments from seemingly real looking youtube profiles.
bring back lan parties, aol instant messenger and throw the current platforms into the sun
by trueno - On the one hand I want to agree with you, but on the other hand hn is (rightfully so in my opinion) so anti billionaires, so anti VC, somewhat in the middle on AI, even anti pg recently, that if there are higher forces at work on hn I can only say they're doing a bad job at steering the populace's opinion.
Even reddit is all these things but it's harder to tell because everything is siloed to the point we don't share the same reddit experience, which is not the case of hn as far as I'm aware.
- I agree with a lot of what you're saying but on this point:
> i remember within the first like minute disney dropped the latest tron trailer on youtube, it was absolutely flooded with "i'm not ready" "omggggg" caliber comments from seemingly real looking youtube profiles.
Disney is too much of a faceless corporation to both with something like that. Especially since, why would anyone be convinced a trailer is good from an astroturfed comment? You're looking at the same content. It's different from a HN comment from an apparent expert who's supposedly verifying that an article is true.
The final nail in the coffin is that I've met plenty of people who really who react like that to a new Disney video.