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- Bummed, but I guess for me, doesn't mean cursor subscription ending though. Grok is a pretty amazing model for the speed and price on Cursor.by hargup
- Does Grok have a subscription that competes with Claude Max $100 plan (genuinely curious)by hackernud3s
- > As AI capabilities advance, we also have a new level of accountability to ensure our upcoming model, Astra, is being used in accordance with our terms.
I think Sam Altman has played a clever business move here, they can use this excuse immediately after the Hugging Face leaks and it's not going to be dismissed willy-nilly. Whereas long term they probably wanted to end their partnership with Cursor anyway. I bet Dario will be happy about this too, but maybe the compute deal prevents him from doing similar anytime soon.
Very interesting times we live in...
by ananmays - Is it really an excuse? As the release points out, musk admitted under oath to distilling OpenAI’s models to produce xai models on an ongoing basis. Whatever you think about goose for the gander wrt IP theft, I wouldn’t voluntarily do business with a competitor who was actively and brazenly flouting my terms, would you?by semiquaver
- I use Cursor at work and love it. It's a great IDE, the best IMHO. But it becomes really expensive.
Since the introduction of the Cursor Token Rate, my company tells us to use Claude and Codex directly with Anthropic (or Vertex AI) and OpenAI, respectively.
https://cursor.com/docs/models-and-pricing#cursor-token-rate
I'm now using Grok 4.6 most of the time. Sonnet some times. But that's it. Cursor-native models 99% of the time. I'm pretty sure Anthropic will follow OpenAI soon in pulling their models out of Cursor because it's now a true competitor.
- It's insane that Cursor charges 25 extra cents per million tokens on a model that charges 2 cents per million cached tokens. Basically everyone is forced to use Cursor's own models at this point as otherwise the costs are simply too high.
- Cursor founder just tweeted that he was sad to see this ban and that OpenAI model represented around 5% of total usage.
Burn.
by ergocoder - Source?by corentin88
- Is this spite?by ncr100
- Not really a surprise given their own models are the default option? Most people wouldn't change model. And if you want to use Claude or GPT you don't really have a reason to use Cursor over Claude Code or Codexby dbbk
- That's probably a lot more than their market share versus Claude Code and Codex.by fsh
- Codex has 20+ million users. They are doing much better than Cursor.
- 5% of traffic. OpenAI models are a much higher percentage of revenue.by ralph84
- If you have such a world changing technology, why sell an API when you can capture all the value yourself? That's what every provider is asking themselves.
Cursor will be fine after this, as they have their own first party models and can potentially use open weight models via API or their own hardware, which have gotten good enough to Opus and Fable quality now for many use cases.
by satvikpendem - Being a pure play model provider is completely untenable right now. Coding agents own your demand; Nvidia, data centers, and DRAM manufacturers own your supply. You're getting squeezed by open weight models. Your only bet to making money off this thing is by locking your model down to your program to have some semblance of a moat. The fact that businesses can change providers with just the change of an API key is unsustainable. You have neither the "hard to switch" lock-in of a traditional software company nor do you have the near-zero marginal cost of production they have. Each token of inference costs you money, not to mention the training costs. At least locking the models down to your harness lets you get some sort of lock-in.by CoolestBeans
- What a shame for Cursor. I found it a great tool - I actually liked Composer 2.5; but now being bought by SpaceX has for a while left a bad taste - and they keep pushing Grok and now GrokBot.
I took the 50% discount instead of cancelling - but with this I'll likely not renew.
So sad to watch them go from great to mediocre in such a short time.
by tanepiper - Perhaps now they'll release a 3.0 MechaHitler versionby tkel
- Didn't Kamprad have some pretty strong ties to the Nazi party? Yet you have a bad taste in your mouth because Cursor gets bought by SpaceX!
Virtue signaling in glass houses...
by ctrlkctrls - I don't see how it makes sense to use models outside of Grok or Composer in cursor unless you like the tooling to such degree that you're willing to pay out the nose for access to OpenAI and Anthropic to use with that tooling. And Codex is regularly scoring towards the top among harnesses, so you might as well use the best harness available for the given model. I'm happy with Grok and Composer in Cursor. If Cursor wants to add more models, they should host more open models.by gexla
- Is there a good place for harness comparison/scoring?by herrvogel-
- You’d use it because until recently Cursor had the best setup for cloud agents and visual verification and a bunch of other features outside of the harness.by lawrjone
- Because I pay $60 per month and not using the included API tokens on other models is wasteful.by ryanjshaw
- The reason it makes sense is because different models are better at different things. Allowing yourself to be locked in to a particular model by these companies is a bad idea and will lead to worse outcomes for yourself and the market as a whole.by chr15m
- While this isn't great for users it seems like a pretty standard circling of the wagons in preparation for the next phase in the battle for frontier AI dominance.
Ironically, as a Cursor and Claude subscriber, but not an OpenAI subscriber, this will push me back to Anthropic. I don't feel good about giving OpenAI money directly, but I've found switching to GPT 5.6 Sol now and again in Cursor to be useful. Now I'll probably just forget about OpenAI models.
by bentt - Why would you possibly allow companies to push you? You are the customer and you should control which models you use.by chr15m
- Same, this will make me drop Sol from my options, not Cursor.by DustinBrett
- you dont like giving openai money but you're fine with spacex? not criticizing, just trying to understand.by oh_no
- It’s OpenAI (and Anthropic I’m sure) realising that they’ve somehow ended up stuck in the lowest margin part of the stack (providing inference), and trying to get out of itby ifwinterco
- I think they are betting that Astra will be impossible to ignore.by reilly3000
- I may be a rare Cursor user around here, but I am saddened by this news. The thing that keeps me using it is precisely the ability to switch between models: I usually do brainstorm/planning with Sol or Terra, then let Composer (free) deal with the implementation. For certain tasks I use Claude, which tends to be more expensive but sometimes saves me time.
Using both OpenAI and Anthropic models, Cursor is cheaper than having two separate subscriptions, and their free tier of Composer is good enough. I will now have to reconsider my options.
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