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  • "Two of the worst people you know are fighting."
  • There’s no information of what was leaked besides ~5TB of data? And since they don’t intend to pay then they’ll just pretend nothing happened?
    by a012
  • Isn't 2 million euros a bit of a lowball demand for a city the size of Berlin? In any case, it's good they're not paying.
  • Allegedly hackers gained access to data about true DSL speeds in Berlin's households, waiting times for Anmeldung, and scandalous ratio of rental deposit returns from landlords. In short Berlin is cooked but it also always has been.
  • How could this have been prevented?

    Serious question that anyone familiar with the "Verwaltung" (Administration) here in Berlin should ask themselves. Because the fact is, it couldn't have been.

    For one thing, how does one analysis and find vulnerabilities in a system? By doing pen-testing but is that legal here? Why didn't someone from the CCC[1] or BSI[2] actually do a pen-test and discover the vulnerability that was used?

    Particularly the CCC who like to point fingers and complain about how bad security is. Why didn't they simply do a pen-test and tell the "Verwaltung" about what they found? Probably because they knew that the "Verwaltung" would proceed with legal fixes instead of system fixes, i.e., making hacking even more illegal than it already is.

    Meanwhile all the Consultants that the city pays pretended everything was super secure because well ... well because it all Microsoft so it must be secure. We even have the licenses to prove it.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Computer_Club

    [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Office_for_Information...

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