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  • You're absolutely right. Same product family. Same sudden wall.
    by l-mdev
  • This is load bearing
    by zaphirplane
  • At least write it yourself. Why would anybody trust an AI’s narrative of events?
    by avazhi
  • If claude was gone why am I still having to read this shite:

    "I opened my inbox and there it was: Claude, gone. Not a warning. Not a rate limit. A revocation."

    by ozlikethewizard
  • What kind of work were you doing?
    by ungreased0675
  • A lot of GEPA-inspired prompt tuning with content healthcare related, which I assumed may have been what raised some flags on their end -- but I've been going at this for a long time so I don't get why they suspended _now_
    by kixpanganiban
  • So you have no idea why they banned you? None at all?
    by testingonetwo34
  • No idea. My initial guess was because I was running long-running Fable 5 tasks related to healthcare, and I think that's within a specific classification of usage, but then why wouldn't they have suspended me earlier -- it doesn't make sense
    by kixpanganiban
  • You can probably blame Chinese distillation efforts for some of this paranoia.
    by kburman
  • Anthropic always has been an extremely user hostile firm. I don't know why individuals even use it. If your employer isn't paying for it, you should probably be using something else.
    by OutOfHere
  • Oh whoops I ceded my livelihood to an opaque corporate subscription service and they banned me
    by mplanchard
  • Update: Account got reinstated. I don't know if this HN thread helped (maybe someone at Anthropic HQ got a whiff of it), or maybe it was a genuine low-risk classifier mistake that a _human_ overrode -- but I was able to log back in. From the numbers it seems like reinstatements are very low, so I'll take it. Added a footnote to the post
    by kixpanganiban
  • The article could have benefited from a mention of why Anthropic is like this now. The reason this happened to you is Anthropic's systems presumably think your work looks like (Chinese) distillation and subscription-to-token-reseller-api practices.
    by Sabinus
  • Eh, the article talks about people being banned during checkout and I was hit with this as well. No VPN, zero tokens used, created account, paid for a year plan, immediately banned. I had to issue a charge back and I'm sure I'll be banned again if I try to create a new account with the same credit card, address, email, etc.

    I sent many emails trying to get it reversed, but was meet with silence. It's a shame, as I use Claude at work quite happily and would love to use it at home, but they decided something about my location in the midwest, my ISP (fairly large regional ISP), or my email address (gmail account of first.last) was suspicious.

    by unsnap_biceps
  • Yes, when a company dumps risks and costs onto its users, that sort of excuse is usually what we hear.
    by Hizonner
  • But that's a reasonable guess at best, and knowing my own usage _nothing_ would have made my activity look like that. I was not maxing out usage limits, I was not running things 24/7, and my activity peaked on my typical working hours.

    And that's exactly the type of situation where I wish Anthropic would have just put me in front of a human to review OR at least let me know what in my usage caused flags to be raised so I can avoid them in the future

    by kixpanganiban
  • >Not a warning. Not a rate limit. A revocation.

    Clearly OP has some sock puppet claude accounts that weren't banned

    by gruez
  • I still have Grok around to correct my grammar
    by kixpanganiban
  • Everyone sees "AI writing style" everywhere online now. I thought it was interesting when someone linked to Reddit from like 2012-2015 and all the top-rated comments were in the same style.

    It might be that the author used claude to generate or edit this. Or, they might just write like the bloggers and Redditors whose messages were trained on to create that style.

    by alyeska2
  • I think that this is the scariest part of the upcoming AI era.

    Every time you want to do something, you essentially have to ask permission from a corporation (and, possibly, from a government that regulates it) to do it.

    I was thinking about Bitcoin and Satoshi Nakamoto.

    Regardless of what you think about Bitcoin (I know that large part of HN crowd is very critical of it), my point is that people were able to create software that has big social impact without asking permission from anyone and without revealing their identity.

    Back in the days you could be just some guy sitting in your room, possibly in a backwaters 3rd world country, with a laptop that costs just a couple of hundred dollars and you (potentially) could be just as impactful as a well funded corporate coder. It all depended on your skills and ingenuity.

    Now, we are coming to an era when you:

    1. Have to have resources to buy tokens or buy/rent inference hardware

    2. Have to reveal your identity, your intentions and ask for a permission. Everything you do is potentially logged and analyzed

    Of course, theoretically you can do everything "the old school way", but if AI makes a programmer 100x - 1000x more productive, you will always be behind and never catch up.

    by vova_hn2
  • Welcome to technofeudal fascism.
    by burnt-resistor
  • Every closed source software has the potential to centralize and lock you out of it. This has been true before and will be true after the AI bubble (not saying AI isn't useful but the current valuations will pop at some point, just like dotcom).

    Bitcoin was decentralized but so was cash. And it was still possible to send cash to people around the world it was just harder to set up and trust. And those cash sending mechanisms didn't really lock people out of them (but could theoretically, sometimes did by way of sanctions).

    AI doesn't make programmers 100x productive and it never will, so not really a point there. As long as the output is non deterministic, you have to check it, and no one can check their code 100x faster than writing it

    by aprilthird2021
  • It's a difference between peer-to-peer Bitcoin decentralization and extreme AI datacenter centralization. Open weight models currently also require centralized datacenters for training, even though inference can be done decentralized.. We will see whether centralization or decentralization wins long term.
    by cft