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- Maybe Mr. Cuban should put his money where his mouth is and buy a hospitalby sfn42
- There is no one way of doing cost attribution. So, at scale, there is no such thing as one perfectly calculated cost per product. Hospitals are outliers compared to more regular firms in that they produce tens of thousands of procedures / products. In the Netherlands we’ve standardized products for billing and negotiation purposes but still most negotiation is on a higher level than price per product.
Tl;dr Mr Cuban is right, but I think hospital accounting nears P/NP-level complexity
by wjnc - Reminds me of the Surgery Center of Oklahoma which cause such a huge news buzz back in 2009ish for publishing packaged pricing. Brilliant move. (And they still do it!)
- > Mr. Cuban argued hospitals often rely on broader accounting methodologies that spread costs across services.
Maybe they do this intentionally to avoid insurance refusing to pay for the most expensive but potentially necessary services.
by goda90 - > they don’t know what a bill of materials is for a hip replacement. Rather than identifying the actual labor, supplies, implants, overhead and other expenses tied to an individual procedure...
How often is there a malpractice case for a hip replacement?
I'm willing to bet that the costs of a malpractice case can be one, two, three, or even more orders of magnitude higher than all of those other expenses. Dwarfing any of those enumerated costs. Even cases that they win.
Of course they're looking at the statistics rather than counting beans.
- Just be careful. While hospitals need to do better, a large part of what I want from a hospital is to be over prepared. Just in time is good, for a lot of things, but there needs to be a large buffer of things in inventory at a hospital just in case there is a large disaster. (this is hard - blood expires and people don't like to hear about their donation being wasted even though wasted blood means no doctor had to decide which person didn't get blood for lack of supply)by bluGill
- Clay Christiansen (the “The Innovator‘s Dilemma”/disruption guy) once pointed out to me that hospitals were subject to the same disruptive pressure that kills successful companies.
He gave an example (this was 25 years ago) of heart attacks: people used to get bypasses that needed an entire operating team and weeks of hospitalization. But then angioplasty and stents were invented, a treatment you could get and be home the same day, and that could even be done in outside clinics. But while they handled most cases, the hospital still got the rare but super serious ones. So they had these big expensive facilities and staff but not enough “business” to support it. Just like the steel minimill they lost their cost structure but couldn’t see it as it was happening.
by gumby