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  • Cost and reliability are the two reasons why we don't use Claude in our product. Getting close to one nine, that's not something one can build a reliable product upon. We now use OpenAI with Gemini fallback (or vice versa depending on use case). Personally I like Claude and have the 20x Max plan but even there I burned through the whole weekly quota with 3 prompts in less than a day using the new Fable 5.1 which is crazy. Now Opus 5 is down. These two issues are really testing my patience.
    by eis
  • We just use bedrock in prod
    by bakies
  • Both claude and codex down at the same time! Might actually get some quality code merged in today for a change!
    by goonersallofyou
  • What's funny is I had just told Claude to kill whatever coding loop it had running. Then got a 529 immediately.
    by giancarlostoro
  • Maybe you triggered a cascade of events that took down a few datacenters.
    by tartoran
  • Not just claude, even grok seems to be down - https://status.x.ai/

    If I didn't know any better, I would have said Grok is using Claude behind the hood. But definitely curious now why it’s happening with both these LLM providers around the same time

    by stacktrace
  • Potentially because they run from the same colossus DCs?
    by Phemist
  • Don't they just share the colossus 1 data center?
    by zipy124
  • Looks like a SpaceX issue then.
    by aurareturn
  • Setting aside annoyance at the downtime, I'm really curious about the reasons for the failures, because I have to imagine there are some novel failure modes when serving these giant models that I haven't experienced with the kind of work I've done.

    Anyone out there working in this space who can elucidate us on interesting failure scenarios unique to the space?

    by jodacola
  • It's (mostly?) compute shortages. Right now it seems there is an issue in the SpaceX datacentres, so they will have less compute than normal.
    by martinald
  • The competition for the least reliable developer service continues between GitHub.com and Claude.com...
    by nr378
  • It would be really funny if Anthropic engs run open weight models locally when they need to fix Claude API issues :)
    by dgellow
  • Or just their own models locally, since 8x GPU pods fit under a desk (makes a nice foot heater too)
    by throwup238
  • Demand > supply. It's impressive that customers have not migrated en masse to other providers, given the frequency of these outages. Perhaps switching costs are greater than some would believe. Or, qualitative differences between models continue to exist, despite matching on public benchmarks.
    by stri8ted
  • If only every outage was due to “demand”.
    by testfrequency
  • If a meaningful chunk of customers moves to some other service, that service will get swamped and fall down.
    by jephs
  • Demand is actually shared between users and internal. Anthropic uses their own compute for training and building.
    by hmokiguess
  • I did migrate 80% of my tokens. But for some tasks claude models are still the best.

    Easy workaround is to work outside US peak hours (europe morning). I love this outages, I am hardly affected, and weekly reset usually promptly follows!

    by throw83930489
  • >> Perhaps switching costs are greater than some would believe.

    I haven't switched because there's nothing to switch to that is anywhere as good. I've been making dedicated attempts at using Sol but it falls short, despite what some people claim.

    by enraged_camel
  • That's quite a reach. More likely someone merged and deployed their vibe-coded PR and is now figuring out how to bring the service back up.

    If there's a lot of demand for rollercoaster rides, the rollercoaster will not stop operating; instead the queue of people in front of it will increase.

    It's not like a bridge or elevator where we have a certain number of people that can use it, and if one more person joins, the whole structure breaks apart and everybody perishes.

    Those guys are running a website that provides an interface for some specific hardware. Just like file hosting providers back in the day selling their terabyte-sized hard disks in 100MB-increments.

    by bflesch
  • I think a lot of people, like myself, have. Codex paid users have grown a lot in the past few months.
    by kilroy123
  • Grok models are struggling too: https://status.x.ai/ reply

    Looks like trouble in the SpaceX datacenters.

    by trjordan
  • I'm sure it's not that, but I'm picturing Elon Musk again unplugging random machines in the datacenter, and hiring dudes in a pickup to move them.
    by Lalabadie
  • I wonder where eu-west is.
    by matt-p
  • OpenAI are down and they do not use any SpaceX capacity.
    by esskay
  • Their figures are only getting worse with time interestingly enough with non-inference dipping under 100%. Wonder what is going on
    by Aboutplants
  • I would be _very_ surprised if anthropic relied heavily on spacex datacenters already.
    by empath75
  • What could go wrong with building them as fast as physically possible?
    by alansaber
  • Isn't this the classic blackout scenario? Claude goes down, then people move over to Codex, which is overwhelmed, and crashes, so people move to Grok...
    by torginus